View Full Version : Nov 19 2009 - Palladium - Cologne, GER

08-12-2009, 07:22 AM
Tell us who's going, chat about meet ups and chat about the show afterwards.

09-21-2009, 02:29 PM
I'll be there! :) Just booked my railroad ticket to cologne today! :)

09-23-2009, 02:25 AM
I will also be there

also booked my railroad ticket :P

09-23-2009, 05:32 AM
Great! ;)
I'm so glad that I'm able to see a second show this year! :) Can't wait!

09-23-2009, 07:47 AM
This will be my first Manson concert since 1998!

11-12-2009, 01:53 PM
Only one week left! :)

11-19-2009, 08:39 AM
have fun^^

Maniac Master
11-20-2009, 01:52 PM
so, reviews anybody? :D

11-21-2009, 04:35 AM
1. Intro
2. Cruci-Fiction in Space
3. Disposable Teens
4. Pretty as a Swastika
5. Irresponsible Hate Anthem
6. Four Rusted Horses (Opening Titles Version)
7. Devour
8. Dried Up, Tied and Dead to the World
9. Coma White/Coma Black
10. The Dope Show
11. We're From America
12. Rock is Dead
13. Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
14. If I Was Your Vampire
15. The Beautiful People


The Empirical Guy
11-21-2009, 06:25 AM
Wait, so is this the first show on the tour where Rock 'n' Roll Nigger wasn't played? Or is that just included in Sweet Dreams?

11-21-2009, 11:28 AM
rock and roll nigger was played :)

11-21-2009, 04:37 PM
Yeah, Rock 'n' Roll Nigger was played!

The show was awesome in my opinion! I made it to the front row again and stood in front of Twiggy. I even got one of his picks. :)

11-21-2009, 08:12 PM
I actually liked that performance of Vampire... Especially the way Twiggy plays it.

Jakob Synn
11-22-2009, 03:50 AM
I don't get why Twiggy is all for If I Was Your Vampire but not other songs off that album like Putting Holes In Happiness, Evidence, Eat Me Drink Me or Mutilation.

I mean Twiggy is a metal head at heart but I know he's mainly a rhythm metalhead so I wouldn't expect solos out of him but why not take one for the team. Come on man!!!

The Empirical Guy
11-22-2009, 05:51 AM
I'm sure Twiggy would be more than capable of playing any of those songs. From that video, he seems to be doing at least as good a job, if not better, than the guy who wrote it. I think it has more to do with what songs Manson wants to play that want Twiggy will and will not do.

11-22-2009, 08:33 AM
I enjoyed If I Was Your Vampire so much! I liked it even more this time, than I already did back in Geneva.

I read some reviews when I arrived home yesterday...that was a bad idea! I honestly sat infront of my copmuter open-mouthed. Most of the reviews were so rude and criticized that Manson was too drunk to actually performe....err did they really attend the same show as I? Yeah, I now it's completely useless to worry about that. But I still had to express my discomfort.

By the way, wasn't We're From America played before Dope Show? At least I thought it was that way....but that's a silly detail, I know!

I took some pics...and I think some of them are worth to be shown. I made some videos too but unfortunately one of the security guys all of a sudden told me that filming wasn't allowed...

11-22-2009, 04:17 PM
well I thought he did play a great show and he also played the love song before or after Swastika I'm not sure.

he sounded allot better then he did on graspop this year.

was right infront of andy the whole show got a pick from him and a sweaty towel from manson ;)

the only thing that I found a little it weird that he was more performing for stoya who sat on the left side of the stage then for the crowd :P

11-22-2009, 04:50 PM
You're right Love Song was played after Pretty as a Swastika. Hadn't noticed that the song is missing on the set list we've got here.

Well...yeah he sure did enjoy to performe for Stoya as well as talking about her. But I still think the interaction between him and the audience was pretty good. But well I've got to admit that I was totally captivated by Twiggy most of the time.

Well, since you life in the Netherlands...did you perhaps pass two girls while walking away from the Palladium about half an hour after the show? There were two guys talking dutch who passed us by. Hehe, who knows maybe it was you.

11-24-2009, 03:51 PM
Well, I uploaded my pics. My camera isn't the best but some pictures turned out pretty good.
Hope you'll enjoy them anyway.


11-24-2009, 11:09 PM
Nice pics, thanks Tinuviel !

11-29-2009, 02:36 PM
I finally uplaoded my videos on youtube.

Unfortunately one of the security guys caught me while I was filming and told me to stop....so I just kept on recording but couldn’t really pay attention anymore on what I was filming exactly after Hate Anthem. So sorry for the lack of quality! Hope some of you will enjoy them anyway.

Intro/Cruci-Fiction in Space:

Disposable Teens:

Pretty as a Swastika:

The Love Song:

Irresponsible Hate Anthem:


Coma White / Coma Black:

If I Was Your Vampire:


I also wrote a little review while typewriting my notes I made after the concert. Please don't laugh at me it's my first review! ;)

Pretty as a Swastika was awesome! The crowd loved it and so does the band I would say.
Before the song started Manson asked us if we want to hear something from the new album and we had to answer with “yes” or “boo”. We said yes, of course! :)
Some swastika headlights where used during the song and there were some $-banners in the background.

Manson was holding a German flag before Irresponsible Hate Anthem and draped it around his neck during the song. He said that Germany would be the country in which he’d like to live. He also wore a helmet which he later put on Twiggy’s head.

Some of those writings from his walls were shown in the background during Coma White / Coma Black.

During Four Rusted Horses Manson wore that long coat and a hat. He burned I Bible and glitter confetti came down.
Before Dried Up, Tied and Dead to the World started Manson played some chords on the guitar and announced that they’re going to play something from ACSS.

There was that exaggerated little show again before The Dope Show with the headlight and that guy and the little woman (I’ve got no idea what their names are but…you now, those who are responsible for sweat towels and microphones) giving Manson oxygen, beer, some kind of pills and then put a head on his head. A clapperboard was used as well.
There were several headlights placed on stage and Manson posed in front of them during the song.

MM once told the crowd that he doesn’t want to be a bad influence but that we all should do drugs and have sex with many women.

Before Rock is Dead he screamed “Marilyn Manson and Rock are not fucking dead!”

He also mentioned something about “two facts” one fact was that there is a happy women and I guess the other fact was that she was even happier after finishing what they did together. Well yeah, it’s obvious what he was talking about. ;)

Towards the end Manson was kind of annoyed by the guy who should have brought him a new microphone or what ever he wanted. Once a new microphone was ready to be taken by Manson he refused to accept it and started to mess around with Twiggy instead. Manson was holding a beer and started to gesture towards Twiggy, who obviously had no idea what he wanted from him. Manson than made clear that he wants Twiggy’s guitar so he gave it to him and took Manson beer. Instead of playing something Manson kept on pointing at the beer until Twiggy finally realized that he wanted him to pour beer down his throat. Eventually Twiggy got the beer back and Manson took the microphone from the guy along with a friendly pat on the shoulder. It’s hard to describe that but the situation was hilarious.
Getting the guitar back from Manson caused Twiggy to throw some picks to the audience. Unfortunately the did not reach us and fell on the floor in front of us. But one of the nice security guys we made friends with before the show was friendly enough to hand one over to me after the show. :)

I was incredibly fascinated by Twiggy and his whole performance. I didn’t expect that I would be able to make eye contact with him…although I stood right in front of him. And then I was completely captivated by the intense way he looked at me. It was indescribable. I asked my friend after the show if she noticed it as well and she did….so it wasn’t just my imagination. :) I now that sounds pretty cheesy but I can’t help it’s just the truth! <3

11-30-2009, 12:04 PM
Thanks for the videos and your very detailed review, Tinuviel! :D

Some of those writings from his walls were shown in the background during Coma White / Coma Black.

Nice, something new! :]

11-30-2009, 12:58 PM
You're welcome!
It was nice to write everything down and experience it again! :)

11-30-2009, 11:15 PM
In 3 weeks they'll be in Paris...

Maniac Master
12-01-2009, 12:25 PM
uh, nice! thank you for sharing your experiences with us Tinuviel! :)
i really don't have a problem with cheesiness, my review was soaked with it aswell.^^

what about the beginning? was it all foggy like in hamburg?

12-01-2009, 12:54 PM
You're very welcome! I felt the need to write everything down this time to make sure that I will remember it in the future. Usually I'm way to lazy to wirte coherent texts and just make lousy notes I won't be able to understand after a while.

Oh yes it was very foggy. The fog machines where already on when the crew started to set up the stage for Manson. When the intro started I was barely to spot the stage not to mention the people who were standing on stage. But the laser gloves definitely looked cool! ;)

Setting up the stage seemed to take ages. We already had to wait at the foyer and couldn't enter the venue on time. One of the security guys told us that the band was late and that they still had to do the soundcheck. He had hardly finished his sentence as the soundcheck started.
So it was a tiny little bit annoying that we had to wait so long again after Esoterica left the stage. But, never mind...the show was great so that's completely irrelevant! :)