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Shangri-LIE
12-11-2010, 09:08 PM
I know to many that it is an oppressive mass commercialization of our lord and saviours birth fraught with gluttony, greed, and if anything just to rub into the non believers faces that they are going to Hell because only the saved souls get such a great holiday. After all, we know that Jesus was really born in mid April, and the Christians stole x-mas from the Pagans. So, is Christmas truly about being a CHRISTIAN anymore?

To me it is about the spirit of joy. The spirit of giving. The spirit of having people that you love around, if not just having a reason to deck your place out with insane amounts of blinking sparkley things, and creepy Santa Claus dolls. So, asides from any Christians that may respond here, be it if you're a Jew, a Terrorist, or a Richard Dawkins wanna be out there ...what is this Holiday to you?

For now, I'll share a Christmas Carol to get this party started.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOyIfh6KIu4

Norsefire
12-11-2010, 09:38 PM
Christmas doesn't really mean anything to me anymore. Every year I've started to care less about it. Now it's at the point where it's just a normal day really.
I've told my family I don't want anything for Christmas, anything I want I will buy myself, plus there is nothing I want anyway.

ShelfLife
12-11-2010, 09:41 PM
To me it is about the spirit of joy. The spirit of giving. The spirit of having people that you love around, if not just having a reason to deck your place out with insane amounts of blinking sparkley things, and creepy Santa Claus dolls.

Perfect answer, and very close to how I feel about it. I am probably one of the only people I know who truly loves Christmas - most of my friends either refuse to believe in it ("I'm not Christian, thus I refuse to participate in any way"), find it to be a load of consumerist bullshit, or just don't have the energy to get excited about it. Or just don't care.

Me, I love it. I love the traditions, the giving of gifts, I love the carolling, the looks on little kids faces when they see the shopping-centre Santa, the Christmas lights on houses, the mythology of flying reindeer, and the smell of our (artificial) Christmas tree. These traditions form a ladder back to my childhood.

But most of all, I love that everyone gets together and spends time with the people they love. Without words, we're pretty much saying, "The end of another year has come, and I'm choosing to spend it with you because you are my favourite people in the world. Let's give gifts to each other and be merry, for who knows where we'll be next year." This is what I truly believe Christmas to be.

And when people tell me they aren't interested in a Christian holiday, or don't buy into all that consumerist nonsense, I feel sad for them that they feel that's all Christmas is.

Shangri-LIE
12-11-2010, 09:53 PM
Norse - You're British, so I expect you to be jaded, and full of "Bahumbugg". You are forgiven. ;)

Shelfie - I think that we're on the same page. I love giving. I love seeing the expression on someones face after doing something fucking awesome for them even if you didn't buy them something. I love your "The end of another year has come, and I'm choosing to spend it with you because you are my favourite people in the world. Let's give gifts to each other and be merry, for who knows where we'll be next year." quote.

I'd still like to see some more video commentary in regard to the "Suck My Cock" Jingle Bells Parody, and also if people would put some more vids of songs in here. Especially some Trans Siberian Orchestra. Can we crank that up a bit?

Dysmorphia
12-12-2010, 12:04 AM
I am not Christian but I absolutely love Christmas. For me, Christmas is about being with those you love. I see Christmas as a celebration of kindness: of giving, love and peace.
I also love the traditions of the holiday, the tree, the decorations, Christmas lights, the food (OMG PUDDI!!!) and the excitement of Christmas morning.
I am not that keen on Christmas carols, some are ok, like the classical ones by Frank Sinatra or Michael Bublé. I do wish that shopping centres wouldn’t put up trees or start playing Christmas carols until closer to Christmas, three months of the same Christmas carol CD on repeat is painful.

Dronepool
12-12-2010, 01:13 AM
To me it's just a day off from work most of the time, nothing more.

adamchabbi6
12-12-2010, 04:20 AM
Christmas is a good time where it brings relatives together and enjoy a day of feast. Although, I do agree with what both, dysmorphia and noresefire said, even though neither me or my family are christians we still celebrate it but sometimes I start to feel bit by bit, that I don't care about it as much as I used to, since it's something that happens every year.

The Empirical Guy
12-12-2010, 06:42 AM
To me it's just a day off from work most of the time, nothing more.

Aw shit, and it's on a weekend this year anyway =(

To me, Christmas is just a celebration time. This may sound lame, and maybe people will accuse me of buying in to the commercialism of it all, but to me it's about giving and receiving presents, getting together with friends, family and loved ones and stuffing yourself silly with good hearty food (traditional Xmas dinner here, none of this seafood bullocks), going out and see the lights on the houses, putting up the tree, watching the carols on tv even though I HATE carols... all that stuff. Now, in my mind I'm aware that this is supposed to be about Jesus' birth, and we should remember that. But the way I see it, the whole point of the celebration's existence (to the Christian world at least, more on this later), is to commemorate his birth. So I don't think it's really necessary to sit around in church, nodding your head and thinking of Jesus, the fact that we give over a whole day to what is to many people the biggest celebration of the year is a pretty good commemoration, as I see it. Even if you're not particularly religious, it can still just be a time of thankfulness and celebration with the people important to you for everything you have. The same thing applies here: you don't need to be into the religious part of it to appreciate the message of good will the holiday conveys. I have plenty of friends who aren't Christian, but still believe if the "Christmas Spirit" if not the Holy one.

However, I am in Australia so unfortunately Christmas also means hot. Really stinkin' hot, and humid, and it quite often puts a damper on the whole thing and ruins the mood. Winter Christmases are so much nicer and build the mood more. Then it occurred to me today that the date for Christmas is now understood to not be particularly linked to Jesus' birth, and was likely chosen to correspond to a pagan (or other culture) winter festival. So, doesn't it make sense that we in the southern hemisphere should in fact be celebrating Christmas in our own winter, rather than in the hot sticky summer to adhere to the imaginary December 25th date? Everyone in favour of moving Australia's Christmas to late June, say "I".

Hexon.Arq
12-12-2010, 01:48 PM
As a small child, it was a most glorious season of decorated wonders that inspired much of my tastes with regard to how a childhood ought to be aesthetically garnished. (Going to the mall during Christmas time may as well have been a visit to a royal palace on some distant planet.) Now it's absolutely nothing to me. I don't watch Christmas specials because A.) I don't have time, and B.) they're terrible. No matter where I go, other than a few lights here and there, the holidays are noticeably less noticeable, whether to me or in general I can't say. I didn't even bother with decorations this year; it's all build-up to another day that will pass more quickly than it arrived, and everything will just have to be torn down again, so what's the fucking point? We bought a few poinsettias as a pine-scented candle, and I think that's going to be the extend of Christmas this year; for dinner we'll probably just heat up some mini-corn dogs. Yet somehow I feel like nothing of value was lost.

Ich_Bin_Du
12-12-2010, 01:49 PM
I am not Christian but I absolutely love Christmas. For me, Christmas is about being with those you love.


Christmas is a good time where it brings relatives together and enjoy a day of feast.

That pretty much sums it up for me. I love Christmas as a day (or evening) you spend with you family, not as a religious feast.
(And of course I love getting and giving presents. :3)

DecayingSinner
12-12-2010, 06:41 PM
Christmas does not mean much to me. I'm not Christian. Although, I do enjoy buying gifts for loved ones. I love seeing their faces as they open up gifts I got for them. Enjoy spending the day with them, having good food and relaxing. Honestly though, I would rather just have it once every five years, so it would be meaningful.

KnaveMurdok
12-12-2010, 10:26 PM
Christmas is just another collld day!