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twiggysrabies
04-05-2011, 02:17 PM
I've recently decided that I'd like to go back to school and get a college education in this empty skull of mine. To do so, I need lots of financial assistance.

With that said, I'd like to ask you all to assist me in winning a scholarship. To be eligible for said scholarship you must write an essay and then have people vote on it. The person with the most votes tallied wins the scholarship.

It takes less than a moment of your time to do so, and I would very very very greatly appreciate it. You can vote once per day, so if you wouldn't mind keeping me in your thoughts until the voting process is over, I will shower you all with love and [invisible and non-tangible] cookies forever!!

Here is the link, if you'd please vote for me, and also, if you wouldn't mind spreading it like a venereal disease and have others vote for me as well? I'd really appreciate it:

http://www.wyzant.com/scholarships/v1/essay6568_Norman-OK.aspx

To keep this as a discussion:

Does anybody have any tips or warnings about loans, financial aid, or scholarships?

[If this is in the wrong place, mods, please move or delete as you see fit...]

Golden Eel
04-05-2011, 02:26 PM
Does anybody have any tips or warnings about loans, financial aid, or scholarships?

Join the Air Force or move to another country. Students loans are slavery.

Procrastinator
04-05-2011, 02:27 PM
Is a scholarship the only way you can get financial assistance? Sorry, I am not aware of how things there in the US work.

Also, I will vote for you! Going to university is a dream to me and since I don't have enough money to do so, I'm probably gonna have to go through a lot more bullshit than I already have. So if something as little as an essay can get you the funds you need for education, voting for it is the least I can do.

Good luck!


Students loans are slavery.

What isn't slavery these days?

twiggysrabies
04-05-2011, 02:31 PM
Thanks Procrastinator! It isn't the only way to get financial assistance, but I've just learned that I'm not eligible for very much aid through the government, so to Scholarships I go. If I can't raise enough money to at least get me through the first semester, then I don't know what I'll do. Put school off even longer, I suppose.

MixMastahTee: As much as I wish that were a viable option, it's looking as though it isn't, haha.

The Empirical Guy
04-05-2011, 07:42 PM
Does anybody have any tips or warnings about loans, financial aid, or scholarships?


I'm not sure how it works where you are, but here if you take financial aid from the government (they will effectively give you a loan to do your course) you don't have to start paying it back until your annual income reaches a certain threshold. By carefully managing your income, it's possible to live quite comfortably without ever going above the threshold, and hence getting free college education!

ThreeEyedGod
04-05-2011, 10:24 PM
Does anybody have any tips or warnings about loans, financial aid, or scholarships?



Yeah: Do NOT get a loan from Sallie Mae..do not do not do not.

Golden Eel
04-06-2011, 04:15 AM
I'm not sure how it works where you are, but here if you take financial aid from the government (they will effectively give you a loan to do your course) you don't have to start paying it back until your annual income reaches a certain threshold. By carefully managing your income, it's possible to live quite comfortably without ever going above the threshold, and hence getting free college education!

Don't rub it in, you socialist bastard. ;_;

I'm sure a broken arm wouldn't cost $3,000 to fix at the doctor in Australia either.

Norsefire
04-06-2011, 07:00 AM
In the UK you can easily get student loans, and then after the course is done you have to be earning a certain amount per year to be able to pay it back... however they do slap some interest on the student loans in the UK which sucks. Some students think it's great to take on a higher level course and get this money to party with etc. But they're fucking themselves over because they still need to repay it at some point.

I still have a loan to be repayed and I'm doing it slowly but I decided to send a larger amount of money over to them last month to knock some more off it. They took my money all ok, then when I wanted to check my balance online... "SORRY YOU DON'T HAVE ACCOUNT ACCESS" Bastards! But as long as the money I sent knocked off some of my loan then I don't care what the balance is because I know it will be lower than before now.

The Empirical Guy
04-06-2011, 07:08 AM
Don't rub it in, you socialist bastard. ;_;

I'm sure a broken arm wouldn't cost $3,000 to fix at the doctor in Australia either.

Sorry, but what the fuck are you talking about? You're talking about spending money and medical care in the same sentence, I don't understand you.

lol.

Golden Eel
04-06-2011, 07:26 AM
Sorry, but what the fuck are you talking about? You're talking about spending money and medical care in the same sentence, I don't understand you.

lol.

I'm saying medical care, like education, in the US is absurdly overpriced and I'm jealous of people in other countries.

twiggysrabies
04-06-2011, 01:04 PM
I'm not sure how it works where you are, but here if you take financial aid from the government (they will effectively give you a loan to do your course) you don't have to start paying it back until your annual income reaches a certain threshold. By carefully managing your income, it's possible to live quite comfortably without ever going above the threshold, and hence getting free college education!

THIS. Sounds like the only way to go, hahaha, but I don't know for sure if that's how it works in the US. I think that you just have to pay it whether you have a certain income or not.


Yeah: Do NOT get a loan from Sallie Mae..do not do not do not.

Do they not do what they're supposed to, or are they just dicks about getting it paid back, or?

jonfen
04-06-2011, 04:16 PM
Well, upper education here is payed for by the government (college, but if you decide you want to have two Bachelor degrees you have to pay for the second college yourself), and the situation isn't as great as you might think, for a lot of reasons.

Sure, free education, great, but that means everyone can get it, and although it sounds bad, some need it more than others. My first year at college was spent in a continuous state of shock, simply because of the vast amount of stupidity that surrounded me. People going to college just to get that degree, they don't even know in what field; they just drink and party their way through 3 or 4 years, and then they're licensed.

That leads to the teachers slowly but surely losing their interest in teaching and getting involved, since 75-80% of the students are animated dummies. That's not to say that there aren't idiots in the payed system in the US and UK, I'm sure they're far more annoying, since they're probably rich and feel entitled, but I'm pretty sure that a teacher at Harvard wins more than one at my university, for example.

It's a very slippery slope, and I frankly wish that I could have payed for an education experience that would have proven far more beneficial to me. I'm currently seeking Master of Science positions abroad, because it would be pointless and useless to try it here. (Sweden and Denmark have some of the most awesome Computer Science programs)

Golden Eel
04-06-2011, 04:36 PM
Well, upper education here is payed for by the government (college, but if you decide you want to have two Bachelor degrees you have to pay for the second college yourself), and the situation isn't as great as you might think, for a lot of reasons.

Sure, free education, great, but that means everyone can get it, and although it sounds bad, some need it more than others. My first year at college was spent in a continuous state of shock, simply because of the vast amount of stupidity that surrounded me. People going to college just to get that degree, they don't even know in what field; they just drink and party their way through 3 or 4 years, and then they're licensed.

That leads to the teachers slowly but surely losing their interest in teaching and getting involved, since 75-80% of the students are animated dummies. That's not to say that there aren't idiots in the payed system in the US and UK, I'm sure they're far more annoying, since they're probably rich and feel entitled, but I'm pretty sure that a teacher at Harvard wins more than one at my university, for example.

It's a very slippery slope, and I frankly wish that I could have payed for an education experience that would have proven far more beneficial to me. I'm currently seeking Master of Science positions abroad, because it would be pointless and useless to try it here. (Sweden and Denmark have some of the most awesome Computer Science programs)

Are there not private universities with higher costs and better professors? Either way, wouldn't you think your situation is better than one where it would cost $50,000 to even get a worthwhile degree?

The Empirical Guy
04-06-2011, 09:14 PM
I'm saying medical care, like education, in the US is absurdly overpriced and I'm jealous of people in other countries.

I understood, I was just rubbing it in like a socialist bastard ;)

twiggysrabies
04-06-2011, 09:42 PM
Are there not private universities with higher costs and better professors? Either way, wouldn't you think your situation is better than one where it would cost $50,000 to even get a worthwhile degree?

I have to agree here. I mean, look at it this way: Children k-12 here are mandated to go to school, and yes - there are some ridiculous wastes of space even at such a young age, but to be able to get a FREE degree... I think it's very lucky that you can get a college education for free, because then you can take the degree that you get there and go somewhere else with it, if your job opportunities there aren't going to be very good.

ThreeEyedGod
04-06-2011, 10:20 PM
Do they not do what they're supposed to, or are they just dicks about getting it paid back, or?

basically they have a monopoly on the student loan business and they run their own collection agency which, yeah, will hassle you like a mutha! Plus their interests are off the roof and sky high!

twiggysrabies
04-06-2011, 10:24 PM
basically they have a monopoly on the student loan business and they run their own collection agency which, yeah, will hassle you like a mutha! Plus their interests are off the roof and sky high!

I will definitely keep that in mind. Thanks for that advice.

jonfen
04-09-2011, 08:31 AM
*as a clarification for my previous post, when I said "teacher at Harvard wins more than one at my university" I hope you guys understood that I was talking about the salary. That's how it's said in Romanian, but I don't know for sure if it translates as well.


Are there not private universities with higher costs and better professors? Either way, wouldn't you think your situation is better than one where it would cost $50,000 to even get a worthwhile degree?

Well sure, there are private universities, with tuition, but here's where it gets even more fucked up. Usually, you pay a tuition fee, and then you sort of automatically get the degree, with or without you actually learning something. This might be the fault of people's mentality here, and how Romanian wise guys always try to make profit without thinking of the consequences, but still.

I wouldn't normally agree that it's better to get into a 50k fee university rather than to go to a free one, but the thing is, you mentioned getting a "worthwhile degree". Sure people like me, and other responsible young people that actually want to grow will find a way around this very broken system (ours, that is), but what happens with the majority that has gained absolutely nothing from the experience? That's where it bugs me. That those people will move on and profess in that field, or that they'll profess in any field, for that matter, and will have no clue about what they're doing. And that's been happening lately, I see more and more "entrepeneurs" and "managers" around, that feel so important and smart, because they have either a payed degree, or one from a government-payed university, both requiring no intelligence whatsoever.

For example, I would have much preferred to pay a 15000-20000 euro tuition fee for a Bachelor Degree in Game Development at a university in Denmark or Sweden, rather than having to learn all of it by myself. Sure, I managed to get a job in this field, for which I'm tremendously grateful, but that's not the point.

So yeah, I really prefer paying for REAL education rather than getting a fake one. But that view is very influenced by the educational system here in Romania.