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Sans Agendum
03-27-2012, 10:12 AM
http://theaudioperv.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/marilynmansonalbumcover.jpg

It JUST dawned on me. More eastern symbolism. His face almost looks like its made up in Kabuki theater makeup.

:D

http://www.thailand-art-photography.com/wp-content/gallery/thailand-art-photography/kumadori-kabuki-make-up-thai-boy.jpg

http://makeupbeat.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/download.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7057/6986134231_ac3d5dd5c0_z.jpg

Kabuki uses a lot of color symbolism too.

"Deep red on a white face - used more frequently than any other and it expresses, anger, indignation, or rage mixed with cruelty. It can also represent characters with forceful personalities who have good qualities

Pink - restricted to a small number of roles, one being that of the charming or amorous fox

Indigo - second to deep red in usage and appears on the faces of villains and ghosts

Brown - worn by villains among court nobles and by gods

Purple, light green and gold - seldom used being restricted to characters such a that of the lion in Shakkyo, and the golden tiger in Ryuuko"

The album cover is black white and indigo. So there you have it. :D

SOLVVED

Sans Agendum
03-27-2012, 10:32 AM
Also. regarding the logo. If this hasn't been discussed yet.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405916_10150699787395815_93211205814_11350115_1205 251990_n.jpg

The first 4 (AKA the MARILYN trigrams) are yin = female among other things.
The other 4 (AKA the MANSON trigrams) are yang = masculine among other things.


N -> ch'ien -> the creative -> spirit, creative or fertilising seed, strength, circular -> heaven -> father (mature yang)
O
S -> chen -> the arousing -> coming into manifestation, sudden movement -> thunder -> eldest son (immature yang)

N -> k'an -> the abysmal -> generally misfortune (spirit -middle yang line- trapped in matter -two yin lines-) -> water, the moon -> middle son (immature yang)
A
M -> ken -> keeping still -> resting, inert -> mountain -> youngest son (immature yang)

M -> k'un -> the receptive -> receptivity, vessel, matter, devoted, yielding, square -> earth -> mother (mature yin)
A
R -> sun -> the gentle -> penetrationg -> wind, wood -> eldest daughter (immature yin)

I -> li -> the clinging -> light-giving, also clinging (spirit on either side of matter -> fire, the sun ->middle daughter (immature yin)
L
Y
N -> tui -> the joyous -> joyful -> lake, body of water -> youngest daughter (immature yin)



http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTT04xW-IFPFYbLgGmsGKTKnCRo4ImZ8JJfGe_4Gc7uszEIzUNt

Also, these are the two pa kua arrangements that represent the (quite polarized) arrangement of the universe:

http://www.kheper.net/topics/I_Ching/hotupakua.gif

http://www.kheper.net/topics/I_Ching/loshupakua.gif

Whisky And Speed
03-27-2012, 11:04 AM
Good work and an interesting analysis Brad thank you.It seems that Manson is driving an influence from the far east this era .

The Empirical Guy
03-28-2012, 03:27 AM
Solvved indeed! Nicely done.

If no one noticed, that arrangement around the yin-yang is similar to the Dharma symbol from LOST

http://images.wikia.com/lostpedia/images/e/ef/The_Swan_logo.jpg

Jakob Synn
03-28-2012, 10:54 PM
Wasn't Naveen Andrews a joke guess for the new bass player position in the band??????????????????

The Empirical Guy
03-29-2012, 06:22 AM
Well, it was mentioned, I'm not sure how much of a joke it ever was considering he plays guitar and was known to have spent at least some time in the studio with Manson. He may yet still make a guess appearance on the album, for all we know.

brian219
03-29-2012, 07:00 AM
Several Manson/Lost related things occured around the time that series was wrapping up. Apparently Twiggy was a big fan and at some point Manson became friends with Andrews.

1. Manson posted a picture of Naveen Andrews, wearing heart-shaped glasses, with the caption Sayid played guitar jamming good with..."

http://www.providermodule.com/news/uploads/lostlita.jpg

2. A photo surfaced of Twiggy, seemingly shot in the head and wearing Dharma Initiative coveralls. Caption: "A beautiful man. On the island, you grow diamonds."

http://www.providermodule.com/news/uploads/LostTwiggy.png

3. On the post-show following the Lost series finale, Naveen gave what appeared to be a child-sized skull to the actress that played Claire, stating that it was from Manson.

4. Manson painted one of the actors, apparently in character, calling it "a painting I did for Twiggy's obsession."

http://blog.trufcreative.com/images/made/img/marilyn-manson-john-locke2_220_294.png

It all seemed to get out of hand for a while there, but then pretty much went away. At least until the trigrams showed up on the "M swastika" and now are all over the place.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_24CGJhAPkAY/TSJvxdDuSmI/AAAAAAAAFRA/t32HTHj5G_0/s1600/x2_406aa6c.jpg

Sans Agendum
03-29-2012, 02:02 PM
I've always believed Twiggy to be very spiritually mature. Great post, Brian!

The Empirical Guy
03-29-2012, 06:52 PM
Twiggy's picks that he's been using on the Soundwave shows features the Numbers/ Quotes from LOST:

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/420085_319987254715215_100001118287292_807979_1656 364489_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/420085_319987258048548_100001118287292_807980_3225 08003_n.jpg

Sans Agendum
03-29-2012, 10:48 PM
The Holographic Universe

ThreeEyedGod
03-30-2012, 08:14 AM
Shouldn't there be a Lost/Manson thread?

I could have sworn there is one

Jakob Synn
03-31-2012, 07:06 PM
Twiggy's picks that he's been using on the Soundwave shows features the Numbers/ Quotes from LOST:

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/420085_319987254715215_100001118287292_807979_1656 364489_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/420085_319987258048548_100001118287292_807980_3225 08003_n.jpg

I want those so fucking bad!

TH15x15xMYxOMeGA
04-04-2012, 01:27 PM
I always see the BV cover as kind of looking like V from V For Vendetta. But it seems like V's mask has influence of the same makeup style. Anyone agree?

Sans Agendum
04-07-2012, 04:45 PM
Hmmm...

http://www.albumartexchange.com/gallery/images/public/ti/tinyti-chamel_03.jpg