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The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 09:47 AM
As far as this entire post goes, please don't accuse me of stealing other people's ideas. I've looked at various responses from all of you for many different subjects posted, and obviously the ones I'm referencing have left impacts on me. Thank you!

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“Life is all about change, and the villain is always the catalyst. The villain is always the person who creates something different in the story. I don’t mean “villain” in the sense that people might define it as the “bad guy,” I’m not saying the “bad guy.”When I say the villain, I mean in the traditional sense like in Macbeth, like in anything else. The hero doesn’t do anything different. The hero always stays the same, there’s no character arc, he’s always the hero. The villain is the person who has the chance to change something. They might break the rules, but that’s the thing. Sometimes if you don’t break the rules, you’re not going to save anything, you’re not going to change anything. That’s what I started out being and when I for some reason had a hesitation because I was essentially crushed by a lot of different things. I started to lose my identity and anybody can relate to that. If you lose who you are, what do you have?”

-Loudwire interview with Marilyn Manson - ‘The Villain is Always the Catalyst’

Born Villain is a record about change as a person, rediscovering yourself, breaking the rules, death, rebirth, decisions, life, etc. Albums by Marilyn Manson have always adopted a dichotomous title of sorts, some more than others. It is widely believed that Born Villain isn’t a dichotomy. But taken in a more abstract sense, (which the entire album should be,) it most certainly is.

“Growing up going to Christian school, the concept that you’re born a sinner and you don’t really have a choice to change who you are has been hammered into my head.”

-CNN Q&A with Marilyn Manson

There you have it. Born Villain is a sarcastic dichotomy. According to Christian theology, Christ died on the cross for all the world’s sins, implying that we are all bad people. We are all born sinners. Born villains. Being born a person who is just you, and being born a villain, is possibly the ultimate polarity.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 09:55 AM
Logo and I-Ching Philosophy
“The Laws of Change” book on the I-Ching philosophy

The philosophy of the I-Ching tells us to shove everything else aside, and look deep inside ourselves to find God. Not in the theistic sense, but in the spiritual, self aware sense. You are your own God. It tells us that you will never be who you are for any great length of time, but are constantly shifting and changing with what circumstances you’re in. Though this is inevitable, the I-Ching teaches us to establish harmony with our inner selves, and stay true to that through the past, present, and future, which will eventually come full circle. This is a concept attacked time and time again in Born Villain.

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Marilyn Manson logo 2011

This is an image first unveiled on marilynmanson.com when the site underwent a complete overhaul on May 22nd, 2011. The four Ms are clearly reminiscent of a swastika, and this image marks the beginning of Marilyn Manson using the I-Ching philosophy in his art.

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I-Ching symbol “Li”

This I-Ching symbol named “li” means fire, and represents clinging, clarity, adaptability, radiance and thinking. The animal it represents is a pheasant. It can be seen in the logo on the ends of the blue M and the yellow M.

The logo uses a CMYK colour scheme, referencing the opening lines of the journal entry posted the same day:

“Christianity
Manufacturers
Yesterday’s
Killers”

(For more information on the journal entry, see Song-By-Song references).

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CMYK colour scheme diagram

This logo perfectly represents the new era. When you see the logo, you think swastika, which is widely regarded as villainous and cruel, even though it was originally intended to be a Buddhist peace symbol. This shows how glorified the Nazi reign has become in comparison to Buddhist peace ideology, how the public is more comfortable watching replays displaying unfathomable amounts of gore on the television than learning about peace and tranquillity philosophies. And all these killers have been inspired by Christianity, “The Bible” displaying unfathomable amounts of gore and manslaughter itself. This sort of profanity human beings are raised around, these things that our televisions teaches us, this can greatly influence our mindset, and in turn, transform us, or change us into a villain of sorts.

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Marilyn Manson logo 2012

This is an image Marilyn Manson uploaded on his Facebook account on February 22nd, 2012 with the caption “An I-Ching in the armor.” It was later revealed to be his official new logo when it was uploaded on his Twitter account with the caption “New Logo. Discuss.” I-Ching symbols are featured on the ends of nearly every letter, far more extensively than the swastika logo of 2011.

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I-Ching trigrams diagram

(From left to right)

The 1st I-Ching symbol on the first row named “Gčn” means “keeping still”, and represents mountains, resting, standing still, completion, and the body. The animal it represents is a wolf. It can be seen on the logo at the bottom of the second “M”.

The 2nd I-Ching symbol named Kǎn means “The Abysmal”, and represents water, the gorge, danger, motion, and the soul. The animal it represents is a pig. It can be seen in the logo on the top of the second “N”.

The 3rd I-Ching symbol named “Xůn” means “The Gentle”, and represents the ground, wind, gentle entrances, penetration, grass, and sense. The animal it represents is a fowl. It can be seen in the logo on the end of the “R”.

The 1st I-Ching symbol on the second row named “Zhčn” means “The Arousing”, and represents shaking, inciting movement, taking initiative, thunder, and the spirit. The animal it represents is a dragon. It can be seen on the logo at the bottom of the “S”.

The 2nd I-Ching symbol named “Li” can be seen at the top of the “I”.

The 3rd I-Ching symbol named “Dui” means “The Joyous”, and represents openness, lakes, tranquillity, complete devotion, pleasure, and feeling. The animal it represents is a sheep, or a goat. It can be seen on the logo at the bottom of the first “N”.

The 4th I-Ching symbol named “Qián” means “The Creative”, and represents force, heaven, strength, creativeness, and awareness. It can be seen on the logo at the top of the third “N”.

This caption is a reference to the phrase “a chink in the armor,” which essentially means weakness. A little hole in the armour that makes you. The phrase came from the ancient Greek myth of Achilles. In the myth, Achilles’ mother chose to dip him in the River Styx, to render his body totally invulnerable. However, to do this, she was required to hold him by his ankle, making his one weak spot that place.

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Painting depicting Archilles’ mother dipping him in The River Styx

The I-Ching philosophy teaches us to overcome these weaknesses, thus the phrase helps to support the I-Ching reference.

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Marilyn Manson in the photo shoot for Revolver magazine

In this photo Marilyn Manson is dressed up elaborately in a guise that looks like a cross between classy Victorian era suits and Ancient Roman armour. There are many holes in the suit of armour, portraying “chinks in the armour.”

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Metal Hammer magazine

This photo is entitled “Mazza spies a break in the clouds”. Manson is dishing us out another way to look at the “a chink in the armour” reference. Usually thought of as a bad thing, weakness can also be a grand thing, and this applies to anything. This is another concept that Manson is drawn towards in Born Villain, that villains aren’t villains, and heroes aren’t heroes. Nothing’s as black and white as that. And while spying a break, or a chink in the clouds, you can see the light. You can see that there is hope.

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I-Ching symbol “Kūn”

This is the final I-Ching symbol used in the Born Villain imagery, and, intriguingly, if looked at the right way, it looks exactly like the Celebritarianism double cross. Even more intriguingly, it means “The Receptive,” which alludes to the overly receptive public who will guzzle up anything and everything that’s spoon fed to them via different forms of entertainment. The symbol’s image in nature is “Earth,” which alludes to how insignificant all the celebrities we put up on podiums to admire is. We just live on Earth, which is a tiny tiny microscopic particle in relation to the fabric of the universe, and nothing really matters in the grand scheme of things.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 10:07 AM
Celebritarianism Reference

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Born Villain disc scan

“There’s definitely a mixture now of celebrity and rockstar that didn’t exist when I started making music. There always has been ‘celebrity’, but there was never the era of people being famous for nothing, or looking stupid on YouTube or something like that. It was a different era when I started. But in some ways it wasn’t. That’s the very essence of Charles Manson and Marilyn Monroe, Charles Manson became a complete icon for being a criminal, so in some ways it’s just a different form. It’s an evolution of the culture.”
-Gigwise Interview with Marilyn Manson - ‘Rockstars and Celebs have become one’

“The Celebritarian Corporation” is an art movement that Manson and Co. brand all their work with, but conceptually, and in a nutshell, it’s a parody on religion, the name itself being trademarked. It follows the concept of stars or celebrities being worshipped more so in death than in life, (Marilyn Monroe), or the worshipping of somebody who has acquired fame through the death of others, (Charles Manson).

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting a famous debate with John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon

Here is John F. Kennedy debating with Richard Nixon, both of whom are dead, thus elevating them to a Christ like status.

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting serial killer David Berkowitz

Here is David Berkowitz, who has acquired worldwide stardom from the sickening crimes he has committed.

Celebritarianism is an ever growing concept that officially began in 2000, and Born Villain expands even further upon. Though more vague and veiled in his last three albums, the Celebritarianism ideology is a key factor to all of them. Eat Me Drink Me, The High End of Low, and Born Villain have been Manson’s most personal albums to date, painting images in your head that are almost reminiscent of The Triptych. Eat Me Drink Me being about wild love, The High End of Low being about the loss of that love, and Born Villain being about rediscovering who you are and pulling yourself out of the pit you’ve dug yourself in. One way of looking at Celebritarianism’s influence on those albums is that Marilyn Manson, being an icon himself, is exhibiting how celebrities are people just like us. How their is no one God, or all powerful superstar. Fame doesn’t bring immortality, stars can still feel love, pain, redemption, etc.

“There are no drugged out devils or square-halo angels walking among us.”
-Marilyn Manson, Hey Cruel World

Square halos were painted on subjects who were deemed holy, but still alive, from 500 – 1100 AD in Europe. Hierophants, basically.

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Painting of Pope Pachal

Here is a painted portrait of Pope Pachal depicted with a square halo during his lifetime, around 800 AD. A prime example of the square halo.

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Richard Nixon meeting with Elvis Presley on December 21st, 1970

The most blatant reference to the Celebritarianism cross is on the CD of the album which depicts said symbol, branding the album with the “Celebritarian Corporation,” and adding to the concept noted above.

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Ronald Reagan and Ray Charles

The 11th track on the album is entitled “Murderers are Getting Prettier Every Day,” which has many meanings, one of them being a nod to the Celebritarian Corporation. (More information under “Song By Song References”.)

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This is an I-Ching symbol used frequently in the Born Villain imagery, and, intriguingly, if looked at the right way, it looks exactly like the Celebritarianism double cross. Even more intriguingly, it means “The Receptive,” which alludes to the overly receptive public who will guzzle up anything and everything that’s spoon fed to them via different forms of entertainment. The symbol’s image in nature is “Earth,” which alludes to how insignificant all the celebrities we put up on podiums to admire is. We just live on Earth, which is a tiny tiny microscopic particle in relation to the fabric of the universe, and nothing really matters in the grand scheme of things.

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting the tabloid press announcing Freddie Mercury’s death

This is the best possible public photo to use to represent Celebritarian ideology, as not only is it making a huge spectacle of his death, not only are his arms spread out like that of Christ, but there is also the flag of Britain spread out behind him, yet another reference to Celebritarianism. The flag of Britain contains the flag of England, or St. George within it.

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Left: The flag of Britain Right: The Flag of England

According to legend, St. George slayed a horrible dragon in attempt to save his country and the woman he loved. Some legends have it he slayed the dragon with the cross of Loraine, which evidently hugely inspired the Celebritarianism cross.

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Postage stamp portraying St. George slaying the dragon with the cross of Loraine

St. George, having been turned into a saint after death, martyred, is also a representation of Celebritarian ideology.

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Marilyn Manson in the photo shoot for Revolver magazine

Another reference to the flag of England, with Manson in armour reminiscent of that of St. George, brandishing a sword, alluding to the slaying of the dragon.

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Marilyn Manson in the photo shoot for Revolver magazine

In this photo Manson is wearing a winged helmet, the exact helmet Mercury was supposed to have worn, the god of trade, thieves, and travel. By referencing the god Mercury, he is nodding once again in the direction of Freddie Mercury’s death, and his elevation to a Christ, or even God-like status.

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Promotional photo for Born Villain

In this photo Manson is wearing blue and pink glow in the dark paint, painted to resemble a Celebritarianism cross, with a black background, and a yellow glint in one of his eyes. This references both Celebritarian ideology and the CMYK colour scheme.

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Marilyn Manson wearing a Celebritarianism suit on the Hey Cruel World… Tour

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Marilyn Manson with the Celebritarian double cross etched into his face with makeup on the Hey Cruel World… Tour

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Back cover of Born Villain, with the first M resembling the Celebritarian cross

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Marilyn Manson in the photo shoot for Vogue magazine with dead flies on his face used to represent the general public, paparazzi, tabloid press, etc, eager to gobble up whatever new product a celebrity or their management has to offer, and producing feces, or rather money

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Jackie O Kennedy waving to the adoring paparazzi

This violence obsessed death worshipping freakshow of a cruel world we live in is another reason a person might be vilified. Turned into a public menace by trying to promote change and peace, thus contributing to the philosophies Born Villain presents us with.

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Elvis Presley as Christ.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 10:14 AM
15 References

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Audience Member: Regarding numerology, your new font is using a 1 and a 5, the release date is the 15th and there are allegedly 15 tracks on the album. Can you elaborate on…?
Marilyn Manson: January 5th is also my birthday. I’m going to be 30 this year, that’s half my age. Marilyn Manson also equals 6. There’s a lot of different things but if you look for coincidences you’ll start realizing that there are no such thing as coincidences, that everything has a purpose.
-MTV Interview with Marilyn Manson - ‘Man5on TV Special 1998’

15 is undoubtedly the number, theme, or even concept most coincidental in all of Manson’s work. Or is it coincidental? Marilyn Manson uses “15,” which has a lot of personal meaning to him, to show how nothing’s a coincidence, how everything means something, everything must be taken with a grain of salt, especially his artwork. The last we saw of this number in the Manson world was the final track in The High End of Low album, entitled “15,” the track giving promises of hope.

“Yesterday everything I thought I believed in died, but today is my birthday.”

-Marilyn Manson, 15

Having that number continue on to this album right after the obvious use in The High End of Low is a great statement on Born Villain and the era. Coming back to the personal triptych concept mentioned earlier, with The High End of Low being full of loss, and misery, Born Villain offers us redemption, and seeing the light.

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Marilyn Manson in a photo shoot for Metal Hammer magazine - “Mazza Spies a Break in the Clouds”

Here are the references to 15 in Born Villain.

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Back cover of Born Villain

There are fifteen objects on this back cover. 13 songs, and two Ms. 15.

“And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing. ”

-William Shakespeare

This is the passage from Macbeth that Marilyn Manson quotes, both in the Born Villain film and the song “Overneath the Path of Misery.” This quote is from act 5, scene 5, and Macbeth is the fifth person to speak in this scene. Three fives make 15.

“5 or 500 million years ago we were 15 foot high…”

-Marilyn Manson, Children of Cain

15 foot high. 15.

“So take your little black book
I see the way that you look into it
I’ll eat it and I’ll cut my tongue
And all the pages you spread,
‘Sweet as honey,’ you said
But I’m choking on your bitter stories”

-Marilyn Manson, Children of Cain

This stanza from Children of Cain is similar to this Bible quote:

“How sweet are your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth!”

-Psalm 119:103

Psalm 119:103. 1 + 1 + 9 + 1 + 3 = 15.

In the Born Villain short film, there are 15 different “sets,” or visual representations of things. 15.

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Screenshots from the Born Villain film

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Screenshot from the No Reflection music video

In the music video for No Reflection, there is 1 man and 5 women. 15.

“And you know I’m loaded, but not which chamber.
Touch me and I’ll go
Click click click click click.
Click click click click click.
Click click click click click.”
-Marilyn Manson, Born Villain

15 clicks of a gun. 15.

“No no no no no reason.
No no no no no reason.
No no no no no reason.”
-Marilyn Manson, Overneath the Path of Misery

15 "no"s. 15.

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Marilyn Manson portraying The Evil Magician

Here there are 15 blue translucent spirals circling around Manson. 15.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 10:29 AM
Religious References

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“I think art is the only thing that’s spiritual in the world. And I refuse to forced to believe in other people’s interpretations of God. I don’t think anybody should be. No one person can own the copyright to what God means. ”
-Marilyn Manson

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Born Villain holding a makeshift crucifix made of neon lights vaguely resembling a gun, a metaphor for the how synthetic and violent Christianity is

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Born Villain with a gun as a halo, illustrating the same themes as above.

The subject of religion has been a massive, always present theme in Marilyn Manson’s art, just as much in Born Villain as in anything, the album’s title being a religious statement in itself.

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Marilyn Manson with black makeup depicting a Christian cross on the Hey Cruel World… Tour

The most obvious reference to Christianity in Born Villain, apart from it’s title, is the track Children of Cain.

“No sineater to slay
Us children of Cain.
Watching monkey suicide,
Sunday, AIDS, and church wine wash it away.”
-Marilyn Manson, Children of Cain

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Metal Hammer

Here we have Marilyn Manson with halo inspired lighting and bandages around his head illustrating Christianity’s corrupt “system” used for branding any certain person or thing “holy,” and it’s effect on the mind, (washing all rational thinking away).

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Twiggy Ramirez in a guise and position similar to that of Christ

Another reference to Christianity in The Gardener:

“You never wanted to share your concept of your creation with any other gods or worshippers.”
-Marilyn Manson, The Gardener

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Revolver magazine

Here we have Marilyn Manson resting his arms upon the top of a pillar from the late Roman Empire, a time period Jesus Christ is widely known to have been born in, covering his ears with his hands, illustrating the limits Christianity puts up as far as properly understanding our world goes.

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The top of a late Roman Empire pillar

Another reference to Christianity in Born Villain’s title track:

“I don’t ever want God to hear our screams and mistake them for prayers.”
-Marilyn Manson, Born Villain

(For more information on these songs see “Song By Song References”)

Subjects exceedingly prevalent in The New Testament are that of the death and rebirth of Jesus Christ. Marilyn Manson illustrates these themes in Born Villain. If The High End of Low was about death, or falling from grace…

“Falling, falling, falling from grace and from you.”
-Marilyn Manson, I Have To Look Up Just to See Hell

…Then Born Villain is his album about being resurrected, or reborn. For with rebirth comes a new feeling of self awareness, discovering your true identity. With rebirth comes rediscovering yourself.

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A painting depicting Christ’s death on the cross

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A painting depicting Christ’s resurrection

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Revolver magazine

Yet another reference to the Roman Empire, the helmet Manson is seen wearing being a massive rendition of the classic Roman Empire war helmet.

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Classic reconstruction of the war helmet of the Roman Empire

Christianity certainly isn’t the only religion in existence, and thus it certainly isn’t the only one Manson references, though it is the only one referenced negatively.

The Chinese I-Ching philosophy, or religion, has it’s extremely prominent place in Born Villain. (For more information see “Logo and I-Ching Philosophy.”)

Greek mythology, or religion, specifically Greek heroes mistaken for villains and vice versa are alluded to time and time again throughout the length of Born Villain.

“Oedipus no longer present tense,
Oedipus no longer pre-sentence.”
-Marilyn Manson, Overneath the Path of Misery

The Greek myth of Oedipus deals with concepts of fate vs. free will, metaphorical blindness, and what makes a person a villain.

“We don’t need your faith,
We’ve got fucking fate."
-Marilyn Manson, Hey Cruel World

“You get sick enough to call the one with bullet holes for eyes.”
-Marilyn Manson, Murderers are Getting Prettier Every Day

“I’m born villain,
Don’t pretend to be a victim.”
-Marilyn Manson, Born Villain

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King Oedipus after pulling his eyes out in a whirlwind of uncontrollable emotion

(For more information see “Song By Song References”)

“The rape of Persephone was choreographed by all the wrong Greeks.
The rape of Persephone was a marketing scheme.
Rape, rape, rape, per so phony.”
-Marilyn Manson, Overneath the Path of Misery

The Greek myth entitled “The Rape of Persephone” deals with concepts of growth, death, and rebirth.

“The day they covered us in the dirt,
Like stars in the ground that will grow into dead flowers.”
-Marilyn Manson, The Flowers of Evil

“Resurrection needs your death
To happen twice.”
-Marilyn Manson, Children of Cain

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Persephone, the embodiment of Earth’s fertility, gathering flowers grown by herself

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Marilyn Manson in the photo shoot for Revolver magazine

In this photo Manson is wearing a winged helmet, the exact helmet Mercury was supposed to have worn, the god of trade, thieves, and travel, another nod in the direction of Greek mythology.

(For more information on these songs, see “Song By Song References”)

South Asian religious practices are given a nod to as well by Twiggy Ramirez.

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Photo of Twiggy Ramirez by Marilyn Manson

The beads, turban, beard, and bindi are all a blatant reference to Hinduism. Directly translated from Sanskrit, “bindi” means a drop, or a small particle, which is essentially what it is. According to Hindu belief, the area of most, or “concealed” wisdom is between the eyebrows, and so, applied using vermilion, the bindi can supposedly contain energy and strengthen concentration.

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Hindu god Ram wearing a bindi

The way Twiggy has it worn, however, suggests a bullet hole, or a wound of sorts, bringing us back to the idea that all religions are full of bloodshed, obscenities, and discrimination, but then again, that’s just a different way of looking at it. Which is what Born Villain is about.

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Twiggy Ramirez at a press conference in Lithuania wearing a bindi, his costume reminiscent of the witches from Macbeth

The bindi is also referencing the Trimurti, the belief that the concepts of creation, maintenance, and destruction are all personified in three gods, Bramha, Vishnu, and Shiva, the Creator, the Preserver, the Destroyer. The Creator, the Preserver, and the Destroyer are referenced in the song Hey Cruel World.

“Creator, Preserver, Destroyer. Ask which one I am.”
-Marilyn Manson, Hey Cruel World

So what does make a person a villain? Is it the brutality, hypocrisy, and close mindedness of Christianity? Is it uncontrollable surges of emotion, and feeling unable to control your fate? To figure these things out, we must first go through a symbolic death like process, and be resurrected, or reborn into a being that is at total peace with their innermost feelings, another step along the path of Born Villain.

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Marilyn Manson ripping up a bible on the Hey Cruel World… Tour

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 10:35 AM
The Holy Mountain References

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The Holy Mountain promotional poster

The Holy Moutain is a film made in 1973 by French film director Alejandro Jodorowsky. It’s loosely based on two books by St. John of the Cross and Rene Daumal named Ascent of Mount Carmel and Mount Analogue. The most blatant reference to The Holy Moutain in Born Villain is the trailer for said album, which is essentially an eerie seven minute remake of said film.

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Alejandro Jodorowsky portraying The Alchemist in The Holy Mountain
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Marilyn Manson portraying The Alchemist in Born Villain

Ironically, the Born Villain trailer wasdirected by filmmaker Shia Labeouf, who’s name has obvious French roots.

The film deals with concepts such as the thing that humans know they are and will be forever searching for, the thing that is just out of their reach and comprehension. Their Coma White, if you will. It deals with many similar concepts and symbols to Holy Wood, undoubtedly inspiring the album, such as flies as a metaphor for the hungry tabloid press, dead stars, and political and religious oppression. But most importantly, it deals with the concept of change as a person, death and rebirth, and how everybody is a victim of circumstance, never a bad person. Nobody is born a villain.

“…Another drug turns harmless people into wild beasts.”
-Mars in The Holy Mountain

In addition, the concept of alchemy is dealt with extensively in this film, which, symbolically, can be interpreted as turning something dull, ordinary, or even sinister into something beautiful, a concept dealt with extensively in Born Villain.

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Alejandro Jodorowsky portraying The Alchemist wrapping electrical tape around his arm
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Marilyn Manson with electrical tape around his arm in the spoken word version of Overneath the Path of Misery

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The Alchemist’s assistant pulling a shaved silkie out of The Thief’s head in The Holy Mountain
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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting shaved silkies about to be butchered

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Dead pig filled with casting mold in The Holy Mountain
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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting a pig being butchered alive

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Small children dressed as Mickey Mouse with their faces painted black in The Holy Mountain
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Marilyn Manson in a similar guise on the Hey Cruel World Tour.

More information under “Song By Song References”.

A Better Messiah
08-05-2012, 10:36 AM
There are a lot of interesting things brought up in this Thread. It does need a bit of editing for repetition, but aside from that I find it to be most amiable and enjoyable. Nice findings!

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 10:40 AM
Salvador Dali References

Salvador Dali was an infamous art guru of sorts, at one point known well by anybody and anything. Born in 1904 and dying in 1989, he’s known to have revolutionized modern art, having his own art displayed in countless museums worldwide. Marilyn Manson has been a devotee of him for quite some time now, frequently alluding to him in his work. The Born Villain era is perhaps the most appropriate era to reference him in, being his most vague, abstract, and brilliant one to date.

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Savlador Dali's abstract depiction of an eye
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A man after gouging out his eye in the Born Villain film

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Marilyn Manson portraying The Evil Magician with a mustache similar to that of Dali
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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Salvador Dali in a photo shoot from the 1940s

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 10:43 AM
The Mask

“We know that people want to be loved. Not for what they are, but for what they appear to be. So we have created a line of masks that have the texture, warmth, and smell of real human beings.”
-Venus in The Holy Mountain

“I’m not man enough to be human, but I’m trying to fit in, and I’m learning to fake it.”
-Marilyn Manson, The Gardener

We, as human beings, are all frightened to death of seeing ourselves for what we truly are, and thus many of us don’t even know ourselves. We are so scared of ourselves. Of the people we are. And so we put on metaphorical masks, so people will appreciate us for who we try to be, rather than us. Fear creates this mask, and fear keeps it in place. It takes ultimate will power and strength to rip this mask off and find your real disposition, personality, and identity. This is one of the concepts most prevalent in Born Villain.

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Born Villain cover

Manson’s face on the cover of Born Villain looks strikingly similar to a mask, having artificial like features, and disappearing right before the ear should be visible.

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Marilyn Manson’s collector’s edition mask of his own face

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Twiggy Ramirez wearing a mask on the Hey Cruel World… Tour
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Marilyn Manson wearing a mask on the Hey Cruel World… Tour
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Fred Sablan wearing mask-like makeup on the Hey Cruel World… Tour

More information under “Song By Song References”.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 10:49 AM
Zombification

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Born Villain

“I like zombie movies. I like the metaphor of it, simply because if you’re bitten by a zombie, you don’t transform into something else, like a vampire or a werewolf. You become something that’s not you. You don’t turn into something that’s different or something that’s evolved, you turn into something that doesn’t exist. It’s undead, so you become the zero factor, and that’s unusual to me. So there are a lot of things on the record that are inspired by the first zombie, we can say is Jesus, because he died and rose from the dead three days later — that’s a zombie. So I think these metaphors exist on the record and on ‘The Flowers of Evil.’ “
-Marilyn Manson interview with Loudwire - ‘I’m Not Trying to be Reborn, I’m Trying to Transform’

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Born Villain

No doubt, zombies are what make up a huge chunk of Born Villain. Sometimes, with all the confusion, hate, and doubt going on around you, when you don’t know how to be yourself, you can almost feel like you’re turning into a zombie. “Something that’s not you.”

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Revolver magazine

But rather, what all human beings should try to do, is change back into who they really are, which is sometimes a part of a person’s soul that has never been accessed. They should try to transform. That’s where the vampire and werewolf metaphor comes in.

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Metal Hammer magazine

“I’m not trying to be reborn and I’m not trying to be resurrected. I’m not trying to be reincarnated, I’m trying to transform, and that’s not the same as zombies. I was trying to transform into something that I had not yet become. That’s what anybody in life should always want to do.”
-Marilyn Manson interview with Loudwire - ‘I’m Not Trying to be Reborn, I’m Trying to Transform’

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Screenshot from the No Reflection music video

The video for No Reflection deals with the concept of zombification. Halfway through the video, after being fed the lies of our modern world, the girls Marilyn Manson has over for dinner start pouring blood from their mouth and wreaking havoc on everything, countering the characteristics demonstrated for the whole first half of the video.

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Screenshot from the No Reflection music video

These are common zombie characteristics portrayed in film and television.

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Zombie from The Walking Dead

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Zombie from Dawn of the Dead

The word “zombie” has it’s origin in Haitian voodoo culture. Witch doctors treat regular people with a medicine that puts them into a zombie state. Usually these regular people are slaves, and giving them this medicine can increase their performance levels.

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Image depicting a Haitian “zombie”

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The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 11:03 AM
Flower and Gun References
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Victorian era poet Charles Baudelaire, being an obsessive perfectionist, strained over every last word in this thin book of poetry for years and years before finally allowing it to be published, only the French government vetoed over half the poems for “obscene content,” (the book containing numerous then-controversial themes such as homosexuality, death, and vampires,) disallowing six poem’s publication. Baudelaire was charged 300 francs.

Aside from these tabooed subjects Baudelaire found intriguing, Le Fleurs Du Mal muses over subjects such as good and evil, human nature, separation of the physical body and the spirit, self control, and artistry, themes all considered by Marilyn Manson in Born Villain.

“Folly, error, sin, avarice
Occupy our minds and labor our bodies,
And we feed our pleasant remorse
As beggars nourish their vermin.”
-Charles Baudelaire, Au Lecteur, Le Fleurs Du Mal

Here, Baudelaire is acknowledging the sins of the world, so to speak, or perhaps it is our own sins, and it comes full circle, turning us into miserable vermin, and wretched villains. We are not over, nor underneath the path of misery, we are both engulfing it and engulfed ourselves, we are overneath.

“The Devil holds the strings which move us!
In repugnant things we discover charms.”
-Charles Baudelaire, Au Lecteur, Le Fleurs Du Mal

If the devil truly holds the strings which move us, then Baudelaire is suggesting we cannot be responsible for our own actions, that we are all insignificant and victims of fate. In repugnant things we discover charms suggests an alchemical theme, turning something dull, boring, or even grotesque into something beautiful. Born Villain apprehends concepts vastly similar to these, such as fate vs. free will and alchemy.

“What does God do with the wave of curses
That rises every day toward his dear Seraphim?
Like a tyrant gorged with food and wine, he falls asleep
To the sweet sound of our horrible blasphemies.

The sobs of martyrs and of tortured criminals
Are doubtless an enchanting symphony,
Since, despite the blood that this pleasure costs,
The heavens have not yet been surfeited with it!”
-Charles Baudelaire, Le Reniement de saint Pierre, Le Fleurs Du Mal

A sacrilegious statement to be sure, decades ahead of it’s time. Baudelaire, early into the book, is already questioning society’s values and morals, and what makes a person who they are.

The book goes on with a surge of chaotic thoughts and ideas swirling around your head, is one responsible for anything? What should one believe? Or should one believe anything? Is God responsible? Satan? Life should be lived to it’s fullest. But it’s so menial and confusing! The book doesn’t mean anything as a whole if closely inspected. But if you step back and look at the big picture it makes a grandiose statement.

Flowers cannot be evil. If flowers cannot be evil, neither can human beings. Human beings are as delicate, and always innocent as flowers are and will be. If a flower doesn’t reach full height, dies early, or dries up, this is a result of it’s nurture, not it’s nature. Do any of us really have our own true nature? When born, we are blank canvases waiting to have paint thrown on us by the media, lovers, parents, religion, and anything else that might come our way. To find any degree of true nature within us, we must look deep inside our soul and be at total peace with our innermost feelings, again turning towards the I-Ching philosophy. (See “Logo and I-Ching philosophy.)

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Painting by Marilyn Manson, ‘Le Fleurs Du Mal’

Apart from the entire album’s concept, similar to that of Le Fleurs Du Mal, the most blatant reference to the book by Charles Baudelaire in Born Villain is the seventh track on the album, The Flowers of Evil.

To better understand the metaphor, here are all the direct lyrical references to flowers in Marilyn Manson’s career.

“Because your lies have watered me, I have become the strongest weed.”
-Marilyn Manson, Kinderfeld

“Collapse me like a weed.”
-Marilyn Manson, Man That You Fear

“All the vases are so broken, and the roses tear our hands open.”
-Marilyn Manson, Great Big White World

“She put the seeds in me, plant this dying tree.”
-Marilyn Manson, In The Shadow of the Valley of Death

“We slit our wrists and send us to heaven. The first flower after the flood.”
-Marilyn Manson, Valentine’s Day

“…In your garden, and they’re waiting to grow and die like flowers do.”
-Marilyn Manson, Diamonds and Pollen

“The grass is greener here, I can see all of your snakes.”
-Marilyn Manson, Putting Holes in Happiness

“You’re a flower that’s withering, I can’t feel your thorns in my side.”
-Marilyn Manson, Devour

“You’re a little pistil and I’m fucking pistol whipped.”
-Marilyn Manson, Pistol Whipped

“You’re not a shoven, I’m not your dirt.”
-Marilyn Manson, Overneath the Path of Misery

“Soon it becomes a struggle for sunlight, or rain, or weeds.”
-Marilyn Manson, The Gardener

“The day they covered us in the dirt, like stars in the ground that will grow into dead flowers.”
-Marilyn Manson, The Flowers of Evil

“I can give you a dozen, fresh, cut, pink or red or white, I wonder if they knew what they would grow to become.”
-Marilyn Manson, Born Villain

All these flower references come back to the natural cycle of growth, change, and destruction. Only not in a synthetic way, in a completely organic way. The natural increase or decline of things, and the positive and negative sides of growth and decay.

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Photograph of Charles Baudelaire

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for V magazine with a similar attire to that of Charles Baudelaire

The Victorian era is one that spawned many poets, writers, and other artists Marilyn Manson is fond of referencing in his work, Charles Baudelaire most frequently in Born Villain. Thus Manson can be seen in various Victorian-inspired guises within the Born Villain imagery.

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Born Villain with Victorian inspired dressware

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Revolver magazine, with Victorian inspired dressware, and a flower on his left shoulder

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Marilyn Manson with Victorian inspired dressware on the Hey Cruel World… Tour

In addition to flowers, guns have their extensive place in Born Villain, often placed side by side with the flower metaphor.

The war in Vietnam, which Manson’s father fought in, alienating many people all across the world, was protested against on October 21, 1967 by large groups of people. Though it was a peaceful protest, the government sent in the National Guard, and as they were threatening the protesters, the protesters stuck carnations in the barrels of their guns, a visual representation of the statement “Make Love, Not War.”

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Iconic image of a flower in the barrel of a gun

Manson has expressed his appreciation of this iconic image in multiple interviews over the years, but he really brings it into his art with Born Villain.

“I don’t know where all this came from essentially. Maybe it’s because my dad was in Vietnam, and there’s an iconic image of the flower being put into the rifle.”
-CNN Q&A with Marilyn Manson

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Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Born Villain with a gun shaped halo

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Marilyn Manson holding a guitar like a gun on the Hey Cruel World… Tour

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Marilyn Manson holding three fingers like a gun in the No Reflection music video

Here are the direct lyrical references to guns in Marilyn Manson’s career.

“One shot and your world gets smaller.”
-Marilyn Manson, The Reflection God

“Boy’s fifteen, but he’s sixteen gauge.”
-Marilyn Manson, Astonishing Panorama of the Endtimes

“Dear God, your sky is as blue as a gunshot wound.”
-Marilyn Manson, GodEatGod

“I’ve got a crush on a pretty pistol, should I tell her that I feel this way?”
-Marilyn Manson, The Love Song

“She tells me I’m a pretty bullet, an imitation Christ…”
-Marilyn Manson, The Love Song

“This is evolution, the monkey, the man, and then the gun.”
-Marilyn Manson, Crucifiction in Space

“Do you love your guns, god, the government?”
-Marilyn Manson, The Fall of Adam

“Her mouth on the metal, the lips of a scared little girl.”
-Marilyn Manson, Count to Six and Die

“This is loaded if I open them, I’ll see you and I’ll blow your heart to pieces.”
-Marilyn Manson, Devour

“And I’m like a gun, not easy to hold.”
-Marilyn Manson, Leave A Scar

“…A gun’s cliche…”
-Marilyn Manson, No Reflection

“You’re a little pistil and I’m fucking pistol whipped.”
-Marilyn Manson, Pistol Whipped

“…The handsomest gun and put the diamond bullet into your 404 Error face.”
-Marilyn Manson, Disengaged

“…You can’t shoot the lock.”
-Marilyn Manson, Lay Down Your Goddamn Arms

“The one with bullet holes for eyes.”
-Marilyn Manson, Murderers Are Getting Prettier Every Day

“And you know I’m loaded, but not which chamber, touch me and I’ll go click click click click click.”
-Marilyn Manson, Born Villain

Destructive themes run through Manson’s artwork, and most often guns are the cause of it. For guns represent synthetic change, abrupt change, manipulative change.

And so we are dished out another dichotomy. Flowers represent natural, organic decay or decline, while guns represent artificial and destructive change. Accepting change and growth is a positive thing if it’s natural, but if it’s forced it can be negative and disfiguring, both emotionally and physically. With this concept in mind, the villain is the flower, while the hero is the gun. Contrary to popular belief, but it does perhaps make more sense.

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Screenshot from the No Reflection music video where flowers can be seen on the table

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 11:17 AM
Song By Song References

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Born Villain album cover

“Restriction creates the desire to have the necessity or the determination or confidence to deal with your situation. It’s like a zombie movie, it’s like being in prison, it’s being stuck with one choice, survival. That’s what this record is. I was given a choice. When I started making this record, I decided that I didn’t like who I was. I didn’t want to be who I used to be. I wanted to be who I knew I could be, and that’s an evolving process. But the whole key to it is that if you stagnate, if you become something that no longer transforms, there’s nothing that’s inspirational about it. Whether it’s nature and you see a peacock, or whatever it is, you pick who you’re going to be in life and you need to be confident about it and stick with your gut instinct and don’t waiver. It took me completely stripping my life away, moving into a place with black floors and white walls, putting all my things in storage and just taking my movies, my instruments, my cats and realizing, “I don’t need anything else. All I need to do is fill this [room] full of something.” I’m trying to take things back to the beginning. I was not calculating that way, I simply needed to realize that this is life. I needed to realize what I wanted out of life. I suddenly realized that I was the one who sat and drew my first flyer. I went to Kinko’s, I printed it out, I put it on cars myself personally and I didn’t have any songs at the time. With this record, I’ll always remember more than any others. They weren’t happy memories all the time. Everything has to be ups and downs or you’re not an artist. If everything is happy, then who gives a shit, or if it’s just a straight line, I won’t give a shit either. If it’s down, which is sometimes where I was more often than up, it’s not inspiring. So I just wanted to make something that would make people feel something. I was playing it to people that were my friends. Some of them never heard my music before, never liked my music, whatever the situation was… but it’s a challenge and I love a challenge. I had forgotten how much I love a challenge.

I think this will probably be the grandest concept record of all.”

-Marilyn Manson interview with Revolver - ‘Reinventing the Steel’

HEY, CRUEL WORLD

Creator, Preserver, Destroyer. Ask which one I am.

This stanza has three religious meanings, each one referring to the creator, preserver, and destroyer of everything.

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The symbols above have their roots in ancient Egypt, pre-Hellenic Greece, Tantric Buddhists, and Hinduism. They stand for the holy Goddess’s three phases of the Creator, Preserver, and the Destroyer. This holy Goddess is one of a thousand names, including Maya the birth-giving Virgin, representing the creation of life. Durga the preserving Mother, raising that life and keeping it pure. And Kali Ma the death-dealing Crone, representing the destruction of everything. It is expanded upon in Hinduism;

The Trimurti, the same concept edited to fit Hindu belief, is when the concepts of creation, maintenance, and destruction are all personified in three gods, Bramha, Vishnu, and Shiva, the Creator, the Preserver, the Destroyer. Trimurti translated directly to English means “three forms.”

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Ancient depiction of The Trimurti

The third religious meaning of the Creator, Preserver, Destroyer line is one that fits into the I-Ching philosophy. Out of the eight I-Ching symbols of change, three of them reflect this stanza.

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I-Ching symbol “Qián”

Creative, the father of the family, the head of the body, the sky, the horse. This is a strong, and creative person.

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I-Ching symbol “Kūn”

Receptive, the mother of the family, the belly of the body, earth, the cow. This is a devoted and friendly person.

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I-Ching symbol “Zhčn”

Arousing, the first born son of the family, the foot of the body, thunder, the dragon. This is a person with the ambition to cause change.

There’s no drugged out devils or square-Halo angels walking among us.

Here we are presented with another dichotomy. Angels and devils, an extreme opposite. Devils are known to be evil, cunning, and mischievous, and the word “drug” promotes offensive imagery in one’s mind. Square halos were painted on subjects who were deemed holy, but still alive, from 500 – 1100 AD in Europe. Hierophants, basically. A good example of this is the Pope.

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Painting of Pope Pachal

Here is a painted portrait of Pope Pachal depicted with a square halo during his lifetime, around 800 AD. A prime example of the square halo.

Angels are supposed to represent good and devils bad, but Manson, in his nifty ways, is having us look at it the other way. The Roman Catholic-church has had many legal cases over child molestation, and devils can represent change, and looking at things differently.

Hey, Cruel World, you don’t have what it takes.
We don’t need your faith, we’ve got fucking fate.

Our cruel world is what turns a person into a villain, and at the same time, the world is cruel to the villain after the transformation.

Fate vs. free will is an idea Manson likes to muse over, and the fate here is that he will turn into the villain, due to our cruel world. The idea of fate vs. free will is also prevalent in Le Fleurs Du Mal, Oedipus, and, particularly, Macbeth. The three witches in Macbeth are known to represents fate, which is sometimes cruel and harsh. At the beginning of the play they wear masks as they cite Macbeth’s prophecy. Not only does Hey, Cruel World read like a prophecy, but while performing it live, Marilyn Manson wears a mask, Twiggy Ramirez wears a mask, and Fred Sablan wears mask-like makeup.

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The three witches from Macbeth wearing masks

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Twiggy Ramirez wearing a mask on the Hey Cruel World… Tour performing Hey Cruel World
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Marilyn Manson wearing a mask on the Hey Cruel World tour performing Hey, Cruel World
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Fred Sablan wearing mask-like makeup on the Hey Cruel World Tour performing Hey Cruel World

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Twiggy Ramirez at a press conference in Lithuania

Here is Twiggy Ramirez wearing a bindi, which origins are in Hinduism. Hinduism is alluded to in this song with the Creator, Preserver, Destroyer stanza. His hat and clothing are reminiscent of the witches from Macbeth.

I am among no one.

This line is a reference to the following journal entry, or perhaps vice versa. Whatever the way, the journal entry and the entire song are related.

Rapeture:

Christianity

Manufactures

Yesterdays

Killers

Brave Now World. Don’t ever believe what you read, especially if you are illiterate. Art will be the burning churches, burning beds, burning witches, burning bridges, burning Cadillacs, burning forests, burning flags, and the burning human remains that are the evidence of the burned books, filled with stories of our razor and rope burns.

But we will not be the ashes. We will not be cremated, we will cauterize our wounds. We never wanted our wings anyway.

We are more than the flightless creatures, that are always expected to rise from the bonfire. These are barbecues for trembling, idiot arsons who pretend to be America’s Vatican in whatever ‘ism’ is easiest to swallow. After the horrid blowing jobs, they expect us to fight against each other to obtain the security of willing slaves.

We do not walk among them. I am among no one.

Marilyn Manson

This is obviously a statement on separating yourself from the pack, and following your own desires. Being alienated by the rest of the world. Because the rest of the world is cruel.

The center of the universe cannot exist if there are no edges.

We are all the center of our own universe. Our eyes observe things around us and relay them back to our mind, and wherever we go, we are the center of that place, in our own eyes. We are the meaning of our own life. Our life is simply what it is, life. However, a well known scientific theory is that there is no center to the universe, there are no edges, it is ever expanding. Taken as a metaphor, our minds think of ourselves as mortal humans, only capable of what we are capable of. But think of the things we could accomplish with the mindset of “I can do anything!” This stanza is saying that we are only limited by the limitation we put up for ourselves, and by knocking those down, we can spread throughout the entire universe and do anything. A perplexing theory, to be sure, for if we could do anything, would anything really exist?

Essentially, Hey Cruel World is a prophecy. A prophecy telling us change is coming, and change is coming quickly. You will become your own creator, preserver, destroyer, and reinvent yourself, no longer a product of the cruel world around you. You will realize that you have no limitations, and you will find your true self, which is a mindset the rest of the world refers to as “villainous.”

These are hidden images from bornvillain.com depicting the cruel world we live in.

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Hidden image from bornvillain.com exhibiting an army health advisory poster from the 1940s
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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting a baby with an unknown disease causing it’s stomach to swell
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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting a tumor on an unknown part of the body
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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting a person with their face cut open with an axe
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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting a homeless AIDS patient with scabies
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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting the mass grave in Treblinka

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 11:28 AM
NO REFLECTION

OOOW AH AH AH AH AH AH (AH AH)
This line is obviously about Evan.

Crushing, Cheating, Changing

With this opening stanza, we are reminded of the Creator, Preserver, Destroyer line, and how it is all just one and the same. Sometimes the Creator has to crush, or destroy things to create, and after creating, the Creator must preserve their work. These are all traits of a villain. Sometimes the Preserver has to cheat the rules to preserve. This is a trait of a villain. Sometimes the Destroyer must change things to destroy, and after destroying, things are changed. Sometimes a person can be changed after trying to preserve something. These are all traits of a villain. The Creator, The Preserver, and The Destroyer are deemed holy, as they are gods. It’s true, they do good. But there are also numerous villainous traits associated with them. Everybody has a villainous side, and everybody has a good side. But what is good and bad? Nothing’s as black and white as that.

Am I deaf or dead, is this constricting construction,
Or just streets with rusty signs of something violent coming?

This stanza represents a swirl of confusion, and, once again, the foreshadowing of dramatic change.

This will hurt you worse than me,
I’m weak, seven days, I’m weak.
Don’t run from me I won’t bother counting 1, 2, 3
I don’t know which me that I love,
I’ve got no reflection

The core meaning of No Reflection is finding you don’t know who you are anymore. You act differently in front of every person, in every situation, you’ve been so twisted by all the confusion around you, the cruel world around you, that you have multiple personalities. There is no one person that is you. You look in the mirror, and find you no longer have a reflection. And so you must kill off all the other branches of your personality, to find your one true core.

In the video for No Reflection, Marilyn Manson serves dinner to his five female guests, each one representing a different branch of his personality. The green liquid he serves them represents a truth serum, giving them their first glimpses of the cruel world they live in. Before drinking, they perform a seance, metaphorically trying to make contact with something that’s been gone from Manson’s life for a long time, his innermost self. After being exposed to this harsh reality, the branches of his personality become zombified. They become villains. They become something that is not them, and they begin displaying the traits of a zombie, wreaking havoc, heaving up blood, etc. With sheer will power, Manson kills off the other branches of his personality, but tries to save one, his conscious. His conscious voluntarily sips the truth serum, desperately wanting to see what the others do. To save his conscious, (thus himself,) being utterly corrupted, Manson drowns it in the toilet, and therefor, with everything but himself lying dead, he has rediscovered who he is an has a forever clean slate to work with for the rest of his life. But this, too, is an act of a villain. For no matter what circumstance you’re in, it’s human nature to act like a villain. Villains represent us. This is where the violent foreshadowing has taken us. This is where the prophecy has taken us.

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The This will hurt you worse than me, I’m weak, seven days, I’m weak stanza is referring to how much it will “hurt” the other branches of his personality to be killed off.

Don’t run from me, I won’t bother counting 1, 2, 3 is perhaps alluding to the lyrics, as written in his next song;

1. A bloody nose
2. A busted lip
3. A blackened eye
-Pistol Whipped

Manson is telling his different personalities not to run from him, he won’t bother trying to coax them back. He will pounce. This is a statement on self control.

Showed myself how to make a noose, a gun’s cliche, and a razor too.

This stanza is Manson fantasizing how to murder his many personalities.

I’m not a deathshare vacation, vacant station.

This stanza is Manson telling us that after reaching his core self he isn’t a blank canvas ready to be drawn on again. He’s not a vacant station.

Made of scars and filled with my old wounds.

This stanza is Manson telling us what he’s made of now. He’s made of dreadful past experiences. He is no longer himself, but a product of today.

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Screenshot from the No Reflection video
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Screenshot from the No Reflection video

The colour black represents all things evil, which villains are widely believed to be. Whilst undergoing the transformative process of turning into a villain, a black tar like substance begins seeping from the cracks in the wall and the corners of the floor.

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Marilyn Manson with a black, tar like substance seeping from his head on the Hey Cruel World Tour
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Screenshot from the No Reflection video

Black, tar like substance rains down from the sky outside the window of the dining room.

You don’t even want to know what I’m going to do to you.

This stanza is, once again, Manson referring to killing off the parts of his personality that aren’t his.

Religious Significance

The video for No Reflection can also be viewed in a religious sense. After drinking the green liquid and being fed the lies of the Bible,

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Screenshot from the No Reflection music video depicting Marilyn Manson reading from a version of The Living Bible with reflective pages

the girls realize what utter bullshit it is, and wreak havoc in the dining room, before perishing in their fit of frustration. Religion being the end of us all.

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Screenshot from the No Reflection video depicting bread and apples at the end of the table closest to the camera, bread and apples being two symbols of the catholic church

So, what changes a person? What makes them a villain, other than being human, being mortal? Is it…

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 11:30 AM
SYNTHETIC LOVE? PISTOL WHIPPED

Yes, Pistol Whipped, being a song about a solely sexual relationship, the very title being a wordplay on “Pussy whipped,” is a song about synthetic love. You’re left feeling empty and somewhat confused after this song, as you often are after experiencing a solely sexual, empty, synthetic relationship. Synthetic love. Diving a little deeper, however, this song can also be taken as women who double cross and cheat men. The word “pistil” means the female part of a flower, and “pistol” means a firearm. She is beautiful, but she is cold.

You look so pretty when you cry. Don’t want to hit you but the only thing between our love is 1. A bloody nose 2. A busted lip 3. A blackened eye
You’re a little pistil and I’m fucking pistol whipped (Cock, cock, cock it.)
When I undo my belt, you melt and you walk away. With a red, red, red, welt. Or so they say.

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Marilyn Manson holding a guitar like a gun on the Hey Cruel World Tour

The line

I want to have your ache and beat you to

Is a reference to the saying “you can’t have your cake and eat it too.” You might want to have a woman, but you can’t devour her, leaving her empty, and rendering your love synthetic.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 11:44 AM
BLAME? VICTIMIZATION? EXPLOITATION? OVERNEATH THE PATH OF MISERY

“And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing. ”
-William Shakespeare

First Witch: “Where hast though been, sister?”
Second Witch: “Killing swine.”

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting three hands, or three witches murdering a pig alive

A stanza repeated often in this song is one that goes like this.

No no no no no reason.

That’s simply it. No Reason. The song is laced with confusing, seemingly random metaphors, all tied together with No Reason. Is there no reason for the metaphors? No reason at all? Themetaphors are all aiding to the concept of No Reason, in which case there would be a reason for the metaphors, and no reason to say no reason, but there would be, without a reason to say it in the first place, and so on and so forth. This gets the perplexing all over the place concept of No Reason in your mind, and then when Manson begins referencing villains from the past, you see the reason for No Reason. There is no reason for these villains turning to be villains. They’re just villains. At least, that’s what many think. There are very complex reasons for a person to turn into a villain, or rather be a villain, which is what everybody is born to be. It is extremely difficult not to be one, as what you do may bother a certain person while another adores you for it. Every person always will play both the roles of hero and villain.

Your Macbeth confessed, Oedipus no longer present tense.
Dad is missing an “e.”

Macbeth killed his father in order to become king.

This song also deals with the idea of blame, and how people play the blame game in order to feel better about themselves.

You’re not a shovel and I’m not your dirt.

This is alluding to the lyric in The Flowers of Evil:

The day they covered us in the dirt, like stars in the ground that will grow into dead flowers.

The dirt being our cruel world, all the lies, confusion, etc that some of us feel buried in. Your not a shovel and I’m not your dirt is saying that it’s not fair to turn somebody into the villain for no apparent reason, it’s not fair to turn somebody into the dirt. It’s not fair to turn somebody into the villain when they haven’t done anything

Why die when you can kill the father?

Why admit fault when you can pawn your responsibility off on somebody else?

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Marie-Antoniette playing her harpsichord

Marie Antoniette was a sort of scape goat of her time. A victim of all kinds of gossip, the public came to despise her for no particular reason at all.

This song also demonstrates uncontrollable whirlwinds of emotion, and misery, that can turn somebody into a hostile hate machine, or a villain.

Overneath, overneath, overblown, unbeloved, cannot be low.
From the top of my lungs to the bottom of my heart I scream.
At the chasm in between. And the path of misery.

We are not over, nor underneath the path of misery, we are both engulfing it and engulfed ourselves, we are overneath.

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You’ll notice many of the images are showing the portrayal of women as sex symbols, and portraying people with physical disabilities as circus icons. How can one not be alienated to the extreme, or turned into a product of what’s represented here, as this is such a massive part of our society today?

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Marilyn Manson portrays extreme sexuality, violence, fascism, etc because that is what he sees. All these things around us in the media, talked about by other people, and buried deep inside ourselves. For we, as human beings, feel a constant need to belong. If we want to belong to this society that doesn’t view women as anything other than a pair of breasts, then we must first shed our humane values and morals, sit down, and shut up.

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Here is Marilyn Manson with a spiky metal gag across his mouth, symbolizing the porn industry’s total disregard of anything other than the female body. Not their voice, thoughts, interest, only their appearance, that is all.

Stare into my Kodak Rome jackhammer ice eyes.

“Kodak Rome” being a play on the word “Kodachrome,” a method of photography in which Kodak used a range of subtractive colours instead of light, in turn making the photo appear darker. A reference to darkness, villainy, and pornography.

The video also deals with the idea of plucking your eyes out. When you voluntarily pluck your eyes out you are taking away your sight, or your sense, if you will, totally giving yourself over to the void. To be a victim of your own thoughts, to be a victim of belonging.

At the end of the myth of Oedipus, Oedipus pulls his eyes out in a whirlwind of uncontrollable emotion.

Black, white, and red are all the colours of alchemy, and they are also he three colours most frequently featured in the Born Villain film. The concept of alchemy ties in with turning something dull, boring, or even grotesque into something very beautiful. This is a concept prevalent throughout the entire album of Born Villain.

In a nutshell, Overneath the Path of Misery presents us with more reasons as to why a villain might be a villain. Why we change. Is it temptation, society’s misogynistic view of women, uncontrollable emotion, or being blamed for everything? These are all feelings that can take you rather suddenly and wrap you around the path of misery and leave you to rot. Another step along the way of Born Villain.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 05:02 PM
THE MEDIA? SLO-MO-TION

Slo-Mo-Tion is what is illustrated above. A song about corruption in the media. Any form of media has a false, artificial-like air about it, and encourages human blindness, another reference to the “voluntarily plucking your eyes out” concept illustrated above.

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting ‘Hell’s Teeth’

You’ve got your Hell’s teeth smiling at you. It keeps your brain safe as it eats at your face.

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Image depicting Hell’s mouth

Originally appearing in Anglo-Saxon art, Hell’s Mouth is intended to depict the opening to Hell, which is the mouth of a massive monstrous creature. In regards to the song, this outlines the void we are about to enter. The artificial almost drug-induced lands of the media, and human ignorance. Hell’s teeth is also a common phrase, (“oh, Hell’s Teeth!”), and so the opening line, as well as the void we are entering, represents The Media’s way of twisting information to make it sound more thrilling and exciting, (ie. taking the “Hell’s Teeth” saying literally.)

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting gum disease, or ‘Hell’s Teeth’

Often times when a person is watching television and they hear of rape, homicide, floods, disease, it doesn’t seem to bother them in the slightest, because, after all, it’s all in their TV. We’ve become so numb to themes such as death which should be talked about heavily, as they’re a heavy subject, And so the line It keeps your brain safe as it eats at your face is a reference to zombies, an ever-prevalent theme in Born Villain, and the way the Media will slowly eat away at us until we ourselves resemble zombies, while we stay in utter ignorance. The shell our brain has put up for ourselves.

But don’t worry, we’ll blur it out and no one ever will know.

Human ignorance again, and censorship in the media. With how ghastly it is already, what’s really the point of blurring out the breasts on the Howard Stern show?

This is my beautiful show and everything is shot in Slo-Mo-Tion

Slow motion was officially invented shortly after motion pictures were, but experts have reason to believe that it may have existed theatrically in ancient Japanese culture. The film effect of Slow Motion evokes suspenseful, awe-inspired thoughts, what the media is full of, but all of it being rather narcissistic.

Pump in the laughter of dead audience applause.

Canned laughter from the 1950s is still used on televised sitcoms today, and so this lyric has two meanings. One being that obviously all the sources of the canned laughter have now all passed away, leaving the canned laughter dead, the other being that dead audience applause evokes thoughts of a dead audience, a comment on the meaningless shock factor applied to everything nowadays.

…And teenage rape candidates. I think we’ve got ourselves a real hit.

This stanza is a statement on the newspaper headlines you can see walking past your local newsstand. Never will you see any “good” news so to speak, or even something of mild personal interest to you. All you can be sure you’ll see is pages and pages worth of stories of the personal trauma of families halfway around the world from where you are, and rare fictional “diseases” dressed to impress, only later identified as fake, making another huge splash, even though it was blatantly obvious to begin with.

Don’t we wish we could feel something more than hate and more than panic? Morbid panic?

A human emotion anybody with a conscience should be feeling for certain. Humans feed off of the misery of others in a televised, spoon fed fashion.

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting a photoshopped photo of a man being pumched in the face

And I’m the host with Vaseline I hide behind bullet proof glass and I can feel your tits with my brand new camera equipped with a FLASH! Fast food nude I hate you all and somehow you find me incredibly charming.

Vaseline is commonly linked to masturbation, as it is a preferred lubricant by many.

The bullet proof glass line is a comment on pointless violence in entertainment.

Undoubtedly a reference to the Howard Stern show, as he frequently invites topless women on stage for the sole purpose to squeeze their breasts. Also a comment on how many needs a camera or some other form of media, even if only relayed to their close friends or family to assure to themselves that they are an all powerful example of their own gender.

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Howard Stern invites nude women onto his show

Howard Stern, being widely regarded as a douchebag, but a charming one, is referenced in the last stanza. This could also be a satirical lyrical representation of Manson’s career.

But then again, all the hosts of these tacky shows, all the publishers of these newspapers, these women, these screenwriters, they have lives of their own. They’re not just acting like morons for the sake of doing so, they have an extremely complex background leading up to this as well. And though in Manson’s eyes they’re the villains, in another person’s eyes, they could be the heroes! It’s all entirely relative to the way you look at it. But as a whole, the media is corrupt, and it’s another reason a person might become vilified. Another step along the path of Born Villain.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 05:03 PM
ORGANIC LOVE? THE GARDENER

If Pistol Whipped is a song about synthetic love, then The Gardener is a song about wholesome, organic love. Or maybe not so much. The song is a narrative for two flowers in a garden, representing two lovers. Manson draws a picture with his voice of a male flower who has finished growing, alongside a female flower that is still growing. He lists how he loves her and how dearly, but how meeting her friends is a horrifying prospect, and reality. The two flowers must fight together against wind, and weeds, and rain, a metaphor for all the things that might ruin a relationship with two people.

I’m not man enough to be human. But I’m trying to fit in, and I’m learning to fake it.

This is alluding to the mask concept, (outlined further in the post of the same name).

Your book isn’t burned, it was never written.

This is referencing the idea of a person “destroying” another person. Is there really anything to destroy? Anything to burn? A person’s book of moral codes hasn’t been burned, because it hasn’t been written. If they haven’t discovered themselves, then they have nothing written in their conscience, and it is impossible for the to “fall from grace,” so to speak.

Another reason a person might transform into a bitter “villain” is because of, simply, women.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 05:06 PM
THE FLOWERS OF EVIL

The day they covered us in the dirt,
Like stars in the ground that will grow into dead flowers.

Humans are born as radiant and beautiful as stars, and it is easy to bring that out. But they are immediately covered by the dirt of everything that makes up our world today, and they don’t know how to escape. Eventually, they grow into a dead flower. A flower has divine beauty, and death paints the word grotesque in our mind. For if a person has been planted in the dirt of society and watered with lies, they have become a zombie of sorts, something that isn’t them. They have never been them.

Your body’s on me like sleepless spiders. Your touch is so empty.

This is a stanza foreshadowing the zombie-metaphor-bomb we are about to experience, as well as portraying inconceivable amounts of emotion, impossible to write out in a logical, thoughtful way.

I’ve been running from the bloodless for fear of exile for all of my sorceries,
That shun the light.

This stanza paints a picture in your mind of a scene from a horror movie involving zombies and villainy, both subjects prevalent throughout the entire course of Born Villain. This song doesn’t keep the album moving forward in the way the past few have, but it keeps the concept of change and villainy as the envelope for it all. Another step along the path of Born Villain.

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‘Le Fleurs Du Mal’ painting by Marilyn Manson

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 05:10 PM
RELIGION? CHILDREN OF CAIN

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Elvis Presley as Christ

Sacrifice won’t suffice. Resurrection needs your death to happen twice. Fall on my heart and burn and forge your tortured black smitten into the sharpest fucking sword

This stanza represents the consuming and needlessly violent ways of Christianity, how it is a villainous religion in itself.

Don’t assume that I’m always with you, it’s just where my mortal body happens to be.

This line is referencing astral travel, the concept of mind leaving the body and travelling in the realm of energy, a Tibetan practice.

No sineater to slay us Children of Cain.
Watching monkey suicide, Sunday, AIDS, and church wine wash it away.

Here Manson references the Biblical story of Cain and Abel. Cain, after realizing that God preferred Abel to him, struck his brother to the ground, blind with jealousy, and killed him. The Bible’s first villain.

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Painting depicting Cain striking Abel

Given lack of sufficient evidence, sineating still exists in the realm of folklore, though it is believed to have had it’s place in England, Scotland, and Wales from the dawn of Christianity to the late 19th or early 20th century. The term sineater is a literal one, referring to a person who would go into a deceased person’s home, and symbolically eat their sins via bread and wine, allowing them to rest in peace.

With this stanza, Manson is saying that if we’re all children of Cain, then none of us can be guilty for our actions, we are all products of Cain, and of God, again dealing with the concept of fate vs. free will. Manson is also saying that nobody is born a sinner, the term “sinner” shouldn’t even exist. We are sometimes confused by the circumstances we’re in, thus turned into a villain, but never a sinner, or a bad person.

Sunday, being “God’s day,” AIDS, representing “homosexuality and the devil,” working as a scapegoat of sorts, and wine served in church are the three supposed holy comforts of any one Christian person, essentially washing away all the confusion and life’s problems, instead of confronting things.

Christ consciousnesses manifesto the Golden Ratio,
5 or 500 million years ago we were 15 foot high
And to die was a Bardot Bridge(t) we never thought we’d cross,
To burn down, behind and below.

This stanza is, first off, referencing a Fibonacci math theorem where the number 5 is found extensively, accounting for the next few lines.

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Fibonacci’s ‘Golden Ratio’, sometimes referred to as the 'fingerprint of God'

The next line representing the total inaccuracies of The Bible, especially from one gospel to another. 5, or 500 million, one and the same? “Psh, yeah, whatever.”

In addition, an interesting theory is that 500 million years ago there were humans on earth, but in the spiritual realm, and we were giants. 15 feet high. Every time we died, we would come back in the form of a newborn child, giving us eternal life.

“Bardot Bridge” is a play on the name “Brigitte Bardot”, who was a famous actress, sex symbol, and activist in the 60’s.A “bardot state” is an in-between state of awareness achieved through meditation, drug induced hallucinations, or even death. According to Christianity, after death you spend your entire life in heaven, thus the concept of death has never been fully accepted by Christianity, accounting for the line “death was a bardot bridge we never thought we’d cross.”

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So take your little black book, I see the way that you look into it.

I’ll eat it and I’ll cut my tongue.

And all the pages you spread, sweet as honey you said,

but I’m choking on your bitter stories.

This stanza is a reference to this Biblical quote from Psalm:
“How sweet are your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth!”

-Psalm 119:103

This song is essentially illustrating the exclusiveness of the Christian faith, and how no other religious philosophies are taken into account. How it puts up barriers, rather than helps you discover yourself. And, most notably, it teaches you that you are born a villain, that you are born a sinner. Another reason why a person might turn into a true villain. Another step along the path of Born Villain.

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Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting a Satanic cliche

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 05:13 PM
DISENGAGED

Similar to The Flowers of Evil, Disengaged is keeping the overall concept of change the envelope for all these different songs.

And I could look into the crowded morgue of mistakes. The sun stopped it’s smile and frowned on me too.

The sun is often depicted smiling, or with a cool drink. To have a sun frown down on you is difficult to achieve, and it must be taken as significant. The world is always cruel to the villain, and the cruel world shapes the villain. The sun, in an area where all the world can see, represents the world turning it’s back on a villain.

My rebuilt, remastered heart has smashed into it’s faces, now it’s face is confused.

If the faces here are the many personalities represented in the No Reflection music video, then this line is demonstrating how emotion can get in the way of common sense, and change you so much until you’re confused as to what you are.

I cut my throat in two, I said sorry to you for being a fool, but I didn’t want forgiveness.
It was regret, not an apology.

Here he is finally getting to the core of who he is. He is rediscovering himself. And he is regretting becoming what he used to be.

Dis, dis, dis, disengaged.

He is no longer a loaded gun. He is no longer engaged, he is at total peace and harmony with himself. He’s been disengaged.

You’re with me, against me, but the only thing forever is hate.

In this stanza Manson is commenting on the uncertain people everybody will meet in their life, totally uncertain of anything, including their identity.

I forget what I saw before and after that day. I’d trade all I was worth to make myself into the handsomenest gun and put the diamond bullet into your 404 ERROR face

In comparison to everything else in his life, and how vivid his memory is of the day of his sudden mental viewpoint on things, he forgets what he saw the day before and after this change, after that day. The next lyric, however, demonstrates him having not fully matured yet, still wanting to shoot somebody or something in the face. Still wanting to to be destructive. Thus the path has not been completed yet. Another step along the path of Born Villain.

You decide if you can live, you decide to let someone decide for you.

The concept of fate vs. free will once again.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 05:15 PM
PEOPLE PASSING JUDGEMENTS? LAY DOWN YOUR GODDAMN ARMS

Lay Down Your Goddamn Arms is one of the more interesting songs on the album, lyrically. It’s essentially Manson talking to the people who try to make wild statements on what he, or anybody else is, when they should just leave him alone.

I’m not of this world, you’re not in this heart, this isn’t in me.

To open this box you can’t shoot the lock, I hide everything so you can’t see.

If the box is a person’s mindset, if a box holds the secrets to who they are, then the worst possible way to gain access to it is by shooting it. This changes it in a cruel, abrupt fashion.

Wanna fight? Wanna fuck? Wanna die? Try your luck. Lay down your goddamn arms.

Essentially Manson telling a person to stop trying to pick apart everything he does and take him for who he is. That no good will come of this.

There isn’t a key you can use on me, so lay down your arms.

There isn’t any way to analyze Manson’s every move and figure out the inner workings of his brain, he must willingly open that up for us himself.

You’re a book, every page is written in words I cannot read. So I burn, gotta burn, gotta burn, gotta burn it.

This is written from the viewpoint of another person, observing a person who they simply cannot read, cannot figure out their thought process. In frustration, they must destroy them. They must burn them. But at the moment the book is being rewritten, as Manson is finding himself.

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 05:17 PM
OTHER PEOPLE? MURDERERS ARE GETTING PRETTIER EVERY DAY

…Ties in directly with Lay Down Your Goddamn Arms.

Do you always have to hire actors, to play the devils that talk me out of my sui-cites? You’re just a ringtone that happens when you get sick enough to call the one with bullet holes for eyes. Fall on your knees. I hear the horrid voices of someone else’s angels. I broke open the box when I spoke the spell, and I became an entrance wound to your bedroom grave, and I was payed with the shadow of consensual rape. Your ransom note is quoted by your death and birth certificates. And all your love letters read just like my will.

Do you always have to pretend to care about me? You were the one who shot my lock, and now I have bullet holes for eyes. YOU were the one. Some people think you’re amazing, you’re some people’s angel, but to me, you’re a villain. You could understand me if you spoke to me, if you treated me like a human being. But you don’t. The destiny to fail at something is already over.

http://www.mansonwiki.com/w/images/thumb/0/03/Born9.jpeg/400px-Born9.jpeg
Marilyn Manson in photo shoot for Born Villain portraying bullet holes for eyes, and the way his shirt is half open makes it look like a key

And so, essentially, Lay Down Your Goddamn Arms and Murderers are Getting Prettier Every Day are songs about people. The frustration other people can make you feel. But it’s also an acknowledgment that these people are villains to you, but may be the angels of somebody else. It’s entirely relative. And this, in turn, renders you into a villain. Another step along the path of Born Villain.

And so, essentially, Lay Down Your Goddamn Arms and Murderers are Getting Prettier Every Day are songs about people. The frustration other people can make you feel. But it’s also an acknowledgment that these people are villains to you, but may be the angels of somebody else. It’s entirely relative. And this, in turn, renders you into a villain. Another step along the path of Born Villain.

Fall on your knees and hear the angels sing.
-O Holy Night

Fall on your knees, I hear the horrid voices of someone else’s angels
-Murderers are Getting Prettier Every Day

This line is clearly referencing the traditional Christmas song O Holy Night.

Another way of looking at the title of this song is it’s reference to Celebritarianism, (for more information see “Celebritarianism References.”)

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 05:24 PM
BORN VILLAIN

So, what does make a person who they are? What makes a villain? Nature or nurture? Is it synthetic love? Organic love? Blame? Victimization? Exploitation? Corruption in the media? Religion? Judgements? Other people? All these things certainly build a person, but there is no such thing as a villain. A villain should not, and does not exist.

These child soldiers aren’t villains,

http://i.imgur.com/nNWC5.jpg
Hidden image from bornvillain.com exhibiting child soldiers hanging from hangmen’s nooses

…Anymore than this executioner, or the people watching are villains…

http://i.imgur.com/q0kPr.jpg
Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting an excecution in Arras in 1869

…And they aren’t villains anymore than Bundesarchiv Bild is a villain…

http://i.imgur.com/xEt97.jpg
Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Bundesarchiv Bild

…Anymore than Margaret Thatcher is a villain…

http://i.imgur.com/Vykbv.jpg
Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Margarate Thatch
er

…Anymore than Oprah Winfrey is a villain.

http://i.imgur.com/n0UuX.jpg
Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Oprah Winfrey

These “villains” have children that they dearly love, they have homes to go back to.

http://i.imgur.com/UyEK0.jpg
Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting Heinrich Himmler and his daughter

http://i.imgur.com/vtcwv.jpg
Hidden image on bornvillain.com exhibiting an orphan child soldier off to war.

Because society is the very thing that turns a person into a “villain,” and society is the very thing that keeps that label in place. What Manson is saying with Born Villain, tying in with Celebritarianism as well, is that everybody is their own person, and they must unleash that, not allowing themself to become vilified. Everybody has value, and that must be seen. We must become our own Creator, Preserver, and Destroyer.

I’m born villain, don’t pretend to be a victim.
I’m born villain.

“Life is all about change, and the villain is always the catalyst. The villain is always the person who creates something different in the story. I don’t mean “villain” in the sense that people might define it as the “bad guy,” I’m not saying the “bad guy.”When I say the villain, I mean in the traditional sense like in Macbeth, like in anything else. The hero doesn’t do anything different. The hero always stays the same, there’s no character arc, he’s always the hero. The villain is the person who has the chance to change something. They might break the rules, but that’s the thing. Sometimes if you don’t break the rules, you’re not going to save anything, you’re not going to change anything. That’s what I started out being and when I for some reason had a hesitation because I was essentially crushed by a lot of different things. I started to lose my identity and anybody can relate to that. If you lose who you are, what do you have?”

-Loudwire interview with Marilyn Manson - ‘The Villain is Always the Catalyst’

The Wax Gentleman
08-05-2012, 05:27 PM
There are a lot of interesting things brought up in this Thread. It does need a bit of editing for repetition, but aside from that I find it to be most amiable and enjoyable. Nice findings!

Thank you, and yes, I know. I tried to write this in the style of the Nachtkabarret, (not implying that my level of writing could ever measure up to that of Nick Krusher,) where every section can be taken on it's own without having to read the others. I tried to keep every section as non-repetitive as possible, but there is some repetition throughout the entire thing.

The Wax Gentleman
08-06-2012, 09:32 AM
Come ON guys. Teena Byrd gets more feedback than me!

me_andre
08-06-2012, 10:29 AM
Keep on, breaking the same old ground?

I liked it, and thanks for writing it. This album is quite obvious, but somehow not in the wrong way. The consept of the album is more like a manifest of Marilyn Manson unconscious than there is a narrative story. That is the same way I see Antichrist Superstar, but that album tried to be a story as well, while this does not. Born Villain feels like being home, to me. I would like a vacation, but having a home is better. It's just that I already had a home with Marilyn Manson. This is maybe more stripped down. If the other albums are fragments of the road map to where this home is, Born Villain is that home. Born Villain is really very spelled out, to me, as you may guess. I really hope that from here on the band will go in a different direction. Because there is no reason to keep on breaking the same old ground.

Manson15Marilyn
08-06-2012, 10:52 AM
I found much of your findings to be very intriguing. Although, there are parts in which are different to everyone as the album is open to one's own interpretation. So, really much of what I've read is your interpretation (when it comes to the song-bysong's). There may have been parts that I think were a bit over-reaching, but overall (song-by-song's aside) this was a very good read. It gave me ideas I hadn't thought of before.

EDIT: And, of course, you're probably the only person so far to actually post parts from Les Fleurs Du Mal.

The Wax Gentleman
08-06-2012, 12:32 PM
Keep on, breaking the same old ground?

I liked it, and thanks for writing it. This album is quite obvious, but somehow not in the wrong way. The consept of the album is more like a manifest of Marilyn Manson unconscious than there is a narrative story. That is the same way I see Antichrist Superstar, but that album tried to be a story as well, while this does not. Born Villain feels like being home, to me. I would like a vacation, but having a home is better. It's just that I already had a home with Marilyn Manson. This is maybe more stripped down. If the other albums are fragments of the road map to where this home is, Born Villain is that home. Born Villain is really very spelled out, to me, as you may guess. I really hope that from here on the band will go in a different direction. Because there is no reason to keep on breaking the same old ground.

Yes, I definitely think they should do something entirely different next. And I see what you mean.

The Wax Gentleman
08-06-2012, 12:34 PM
I found much of your findings to be very intriguing. Although, there are parts in which are different to everyone as the album is open to one's own interpretation. So, really much of what I've read is your interpretation (when it comes to the song-bysong's). There may have been parts that I think were a bit over-reaching, but overall (song-by-song's aside) this was a very good read. It gave me ideas I hadn't thought of before.

EDIT: And, of course, you're probably the only person so far to actually post parts from Les Fleurs Du Mal.

Thank you, I know that it was my own interpretation, but I think when writing something such as this you have to feel, or at least pretend that you feel very strongly about what you're saying, and that you're more right than anybody else.

thatrussianman
08-06-2012, 01:26 PM
How can I give feedback after my mind's been blown?
Awesome interpretation of a very emotionally vague album, yet a great album nonetheless.

A Better Messiah
08-06-2012, 04:54 PM
Yeah, I think that you basically summed this album up better than anybody else could have/has thus far. It's very impressive, and I'm just going to leave it at that.

The Wax Gentleman
08-06-2012, 07:59 PM
Thank you, and of course.

...Of course meaning of course you should leave it that, lol.

apokalypsos
02-07-2013, 02:25 PM
THE FLOWERS OF EVIL

I’ve been running from the bloodless for fear of exile for all of my sorceries,
That shun the light.

This stanza paints a picture in your mind of a scene from a horror movie involving zombies and villainy, both subjects prevalent throughout the entire course of Born Villain. This song doesn’t keep the album moving forward in the way the past few have, but it keeps the concept of change and villainy as the envelope for it all. Another step along the path of Born Villain.




I’ve been running from the bloodless for fear of exile for all of my sorceries,
That shun the light.

Personally, I interpreted "the bloodless" as divine and immortal beings, not of flesh and blood.
I envision a human in the presence of the divine, fully aware that he/she does not belong in this metaphorical "garden of the gods."
"Running from," or rather attempting to blend in, like a weed amongst a garden of beautiful flowers. Hoping that we will not be plucked from the soil and can forever remain in this state unborn, eternal, Much like humanity before "the fall of man."

I think that it's interesting to think about how flowers need sunlight in order to grow, "shunning the light" seems to hint that they do not wish to grow, or rather be BORN. But as mentioned in interviews... sometimes you have to be the catalyst and play the role of the villain going against "the light" in order to bring about a change.

johncraze
02-07-2013, 07:16 PM
Congratulations Wax Gentleman!

Your analysis really blew my head off, there is no doubt in my mind that in BV there is a perfect balance between the value of the music and the value of the lyrics.

M Tragedy666
02-09-2013, 06:24 AM
that line... "I've been running from the bloodless for fear of exile for all of my sorceries...that shun the light" does not make me think of a horror movie with zombie or immortal beings..."gods" if you will.

To me, it's a matter of being kicked out or killed for one's beliefs against a simple minded society. Like witch hunters. Or anyone that is fascist and calls for the heads of those with different idea's than their own. I think of a primitive mob in the dark ages with burning torches and pitch forks chasing after a man who is now considered a criminal and a threat. Or even a "demon". Because he doesn't except the religion or the morals of the time. I think of anti-heroes and Born Villains like Marquis De Sade, Nietzsche, Darwin, and even Jesus. A man who comes with a bag of tricks and attempts to enlighten these ignorant simple minded people...and they turn on him for blasphemy. I think of Thus Spake Zarathustra. I think of Moses and the Israelites in the Old Testament, leaving to walk the desert after he freed the slaves. I think of Antichrist Superstar.

To me, the "Born Villain" concept is VERY human. Nothing, or at least not much to do with gods. I realize "gods" are referenced. To me, Born Villain is a man who questions himself. "I don't know which me that I love...got no reflection". No Reflection is not about a vampire. It's about a sociopath. Or someone struggling with identity. The album touches on all the "villains" throughout the ages. Cain and Able, Macbeth, Murderers, rape, etc.. Flowers symbolizes beauty and growth. The Flowers of Evil could easily have been the Seeds of Evil. The Gardener could easily be a God or Father figure. What do gardeners do? They tend to their crops so they are prosperous. Some of these flowers appear evil, or maybe they are just villains. Breaking the same old ground is just the next generation of seeds. Ask which one they are.


EDIT

I wrote the above after just skimming page 4. I didn't see all that amazing hard work on the previous pages. I just got done reading everything, and all I can say is CONGRATS! It's a really fucking great analysis man! There are certain things that I still agree with, with my own interpretations, but you showed me things that I didn't realize or haven't seen at all yet. I agree with a lot of your thoughts and you've inspired new ones for me. So thank you!

S.D.
05-27-2013, 01:08 PM
In his 2009 book Columbine, writer Dave Cullen claims that at the time she was confronted and then shot to death by Eric Harris, Columbine High School attack victim Cassie Bernall was studying Macbeth.

Although entirely tangential, I find it interesting that the Born Villain promotional film - in which Manson hunts down and then shoots a man to death - features both Overneath The Path Of Misery, and the oft-repeated 'No Reason', in conjunction with the "Sound And Fury" Macbeth quotation. If we were to consider opposing forces, Bernall was allegedly subject to Harris asking her "Do you believe in god?", to which the answer "Yes" resulted in execution. Witness reports thereafter refuted this, with Harris apparently simply saying "Peek-A-Boo" before opening fire. My curiosity lies in the resultant dualism of 'Yes', and 'No', even if they are mythologised.

XVI
04-20-2014, 08:42 AM
I spent last night reading through this entire thread-
this is like the missing Nachtkabarett article about Born Villain,
Thank you.

XVI
04-20-2014, 09:22 AM
http://personality-fall2011.wikispaces.com/file/view/Alex.jpeg/279127628/Alex.jpeg

The philosophy of Born Villain reminds me of 'a Clockwork Orange' which is a film ultimately about the hypocrisy of our society, and how society sees fit to punish their own children because of their mistakes.
Alex DeLarge is a product of his surroundings, just like Marilyn Manson;
'I am your shit, do not be ashamed of what you have eaten...'
- Rock 'n' Roll Nigger

Manson even wore the 'single eyelash' of Alex DeLarge during the 'Lest We Forget' Era.

The Wax Gentleman
04-20-2014, 09:22 PM
I have to see that movie, I've seen it discussed in relation to Manson countless times. Thanks for reminding me.
On another note, god. Looking back over this thread is so embarrassing. I'm going to re-write this in a less pretentious repetitive way at some point, to ease my mind.