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Norsefire
08-17-2012, 03:40 PM
05 October 2012
POINTERGEIST 2012 presented by your Mid-America Chevy Dealers
Venue: Verizon Wireless Amphitheater
Location: St. Louis, Missouri, USA

Tickets on pre-sale Aug 20 - http://www.1057thepoint.com/pointergeist/index.aspx

http://marilynmanson.com - http://robzombie.com





Members Attending:

Hazekiah (http://www.providermodule.com/forum/member.php/82-Hazekiah)
loftvoker (http://www.providermodule.com/forum/member.php/1394-loftvoker)

Hazekiah
09-16-2012, 09:58 AM
09/11/94 St. Louis, MO Fox Theater
01/30/95 St. Louis, MO Mississippi Nights
04/07/95 St. Louis, MO American Theater
11/15/95 St. Louis, MO Mississippi Nights
10/05/96 St. Louis, MO Mississippi Nights
10/27/98 St. Louis, MO Fox Theater
10/30/00 St. Louis, MO Fox Theater
06/18/01 St. Louis, MO Riverport Amphitheater
07/17/03 St. Louis, MO U.M.B. Bank Pavilion
10/28/03 St. Louis, MO Pop's
11/11/04 St. Louis, MO The Pageant
02/10/08 St. Louis, MO The Pageant
07/22/09 St. Louis, MO Verizon Wireless Amphitheater


I don't actually have a ticket for this show yet but I've actually been to every single show Manson's EVER played in the St. Louis area, so there's NO WAY IN HELL I'm missing this.

CONFIRMED.

:)

loftvoker
09-20-2012, 06:25 PM
confirmed for pit

Gloominatus
10-03-2012, 10:39 AM
Confirmed! I was originally going to the Bloomington show, but I've had to bail on that one and swap it with this show. Not a huge fan of this venue or Pointergeist, but . . . oh well. See you there!

blue angel
10-05-2012, 09:42 PM
How was the show? I hope that some new songs and stuff were added.

AssetReign
10-05-2012, 09:44 PM
^ Is Rob Zombie adding new songs and props, etc. every show?

blue angel
10-05-2012, 09:48 PM
What has been his setlist?

The Wax Gentleman
10-05-2012, 10:43 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbghvlogdR1qf5qpuo1_1280.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbghvlogdR1qf5qpuo2_1280.jpg
The caption to these photos is "Manson was either drunk or fucked up on something" which is disconcerting.

Heather Quick
10-05-2012, 10:57 PM
The caption to these photos is "Manson was either drunk or fucked up on something" which is disconcerting.

I read the same when Twins of Evil tour began in Phoenix.
Videos or it didn't happen.

icon
10-05-2012, 11:04 PM
I read the same when Twins of Evil tour began in Phoenix.
Videos or it didn't happen.

I sincerely hope this isnt the case. He has been talking a big game, and he needs to bring it.

blue angel
10-05-2012, 11:10 PM
He's doing well, don't doubt him. The shows so far look and feel great!

icon
10-05-2012, 11:13 PM
He's doing well, don't doubt him. The shows so far look and feel great!

Thanks for the encouraging words, because this time around I refuse to watch any video until after the show I attend.

AssetReign
10-05-2012, 11:14 PM
^ It's the same every show. "Manson was drunk" "Manson was sober" Manson was awful" "Manson was great"

http://distilleryimage4.instagram.com/08663f820f7d11e289de22000a1cf722_7.jpg

and the caption reads, "Just saw Marilyn Manson play, great live show."

NapalmHeart
10-05-2012, 11:21 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/68402_10151283761484363_359231217_n.jpg

The great Haz with the great setlist, found on Facebook.

blue angel
10-05-2012, 11:22 PM
Nice, Thanks for that! x

Heather Quick
10-05-2012, 11:22 PM
^ It's the same every show. "Manson was drunk" "Manson was sober" Manson was awful" "Manson was great"

Exactly. I don't even mind those comments anymore.


Edit: I just looked through the set and saw "Murderers", but probably it wasn't played. I hope it was, though, haha.

AssetReign
10-05-2012, 11:30 PM
Exactly. I don't even mind those comments anymore.

His fans are as inconsistent as him so I always wait for the videos, and even then it isn't always easy to tell because of the quality of the video. He's definitely someone you have to experience firsthand.

TakeAsNeeded
10-06-2012, 01:50 AM
Exactly. I don't even mind those comments anymore.


Edit: I just looked through the set and saw "Murderers", but probably it wasn't played. I hope it was, though, haha.

Murderers was played!

It was my first Manson show and I thought it was great. He seemed to be in a great mood. At one point he turned everyones attention to an older lady signing for the deaf. "Let's test her, MMMMMMMMMM Mother fucker MMMMMMM fucker." She played along and a laugh was had by all. He later went over gave her a big hug. Coma White was great, but something seemed to go wrong with Twiggys guitar going into Coma Black and he ran off stage as Manson waited, head hung low. Twiggy returned and the show went on.

Show was great, except for a little rain and sleet...or was it hail/hell.

Hazekiah
10-06-2012, 02:10 AM
Still shivering in seizures from the full-on, grand mal, absolute OVERDOSE of WIN tonight!

Oh, and THE COLD. Definitely from the bastardly cold, too.

TakeAsNeeded
10-06-2012, 02:26 AM
Still shivering in seizures from the full-on, grand mal, absolute OVERDOSE of WIN tonight!

Oh, and THE COLD. Definitely from the bastardly cold, too.

Same here, feeling didn't return to my fingertips for a good hour. Plus I was soaking wet...

Also any pics or videos would be greatly appreciated. Phone was dead and they wouldn't let me take in my camera.

Scorpion
10-06-2012, 06:23 AM
Still shivering in seizures from the full-on, grand mal, absolute OVERDOSE of WIN tonight!

Oh, and THE COLD. Definitely from the bastardly cold, too.

Aw, Haz. Where are your gigantic posts describing the show? :/

Heather Quick
10-06-2012, 07:59 AM
The Love Song


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyEYlopYy6c

No Reflection


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0BOi8W9i8E

The Dope Show


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WxLFkvFBVM

pflumtamas
10-06-2012, 09:23 AM
Personal Jesus


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea7chSTE4EE&feature=plcp

TheTeletubbieFlasher
10-06-2012, 09:38 AM
Sounds like they had massive sound issues.... I think Manson might be under the weather... :<

The set looked nice... Personal JESUS... best of the videos!

Shangri-LIE
10-06-2012, 09:45 AM
I have an idea. Instead of embedding all of the videos in tour threads, just post the link instead.

jembliss
10-06-2012, 12:38 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/68402_10151283761484363_359231217_n.jpg

The great Haz with the great setlist, found on Facebook.

I met HAZ in Lincoln NE during the EAT ME DRINK ME TOUR! Are you going to be at the Lincoln show monday HAZ?
I have a few pictures of you with TIM & GINGER somewhere on my computer!

AssetReign
10-06-2012, 05:33 PM
I think Manson might be under the weather... :<



He sounds good to me. What am I missing?

loftvoker
10-06-2012, 08:05 PM
^ It's the same every show. "Manson was drunk" "Manson was sober" Manson was awful" "Manson was great"

http://distilleryimage4.instagram.com/08663f820f7d11e289de22000a1cf722_7.jpg

and the caption reads, "Just saw Marilyn Manson play, great live show."

Let's be fair - if you saw Manson prior to GAOG, his performances were quite the opposite. I don't have any bias - I don't follow Manson around to shows or get pictures taken with him. I'm not his "friend" or any of that hogwash.

TheTeletubbieFlasher
10-06-2012, 08:16 PM
oh he just sounds a bit drown out! It could be the camera that recorded the show...

rusty shackleford
10-06-2012, 09:21 PM
No video of murderers : (

TakeAsNeeded
10-06-2012, 10:53 PM
No video of murderers : (

All I can find as of yet...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJPk3MHaBZc&feature=share&list=ULeJPk3MHaBZc

Scorpion
10-06-2012, 10:58 PM
/\
How did you find that? O_O
MVI 1110, goddamnit.
Thanks a lot for that. It sounded great!

TakeAsNeeded
10-07-2012, 01:37 AM
/\
How did you find that? O_O
MVI 1110, goddamnit.
Thanks a lot for that. It sounded great!

It takes a special set of skills, skills that one learns...ah hell, I got lucky.

It sounded great live too, wish I could find a full video. Not sure, but I think Manson had on a new mask/goggles during Murderers.

Gloominatus
10-07-2012, 04:48 PM
Long review/recap of concertshowthing (part 1):

Everyone who enjoys going to concerts has had that one event that seemed like such a great idea on the surface, only for things to slowly devolve into a comedy of errors. This was that show for me. That being said, I still had a great time, and if nothing else this should hopefully make for an amusing story. If not, sorry in advance. When we last left off, my girlfriend and I had just attended the Marilyn Manson show in Kansas City last May. It was definitely the most fun night we’ve ever had and we even got to briefly meet Twiggy, though it ended with my girlfriend spraining her ankle severely, and then we had to move a few days later, and then during the move I sprained my ankle severely. So we’ve spent the last few months settling into our new place, learning how to walk again, watching “Fringe,” and realizing that I’m gay for Joshua Jackson. That’s pretty much all that’s been going on, really. So we were both excited when this “Evil Twins of Evilness” tour was announced.

Originally, we were supposed to go to the Bloomington concert. The plan was for my girlfriend and I to buy tickets for ourselves and also for my best friend, who in the past has helped me out when I couldn't afford a ticket to a Manson show. I really wanted to return the favor. So we bought those tickets the morning they went onsale, and it all seemed like such a great idea. The three of us, happy as clams (actually I don't think clams feel emotion but whatever), driving across Illinois in the middle of autumn to see Manson and--the first time for all of us--Rob Zombie. Sounded like a nice change of scenery and a bit of adventure. We even got pretty decent seats for moderately priced arena tickets! Oh boy fellas, this couldn't be keener! Or more keen! However you say it!

That all quickly fell apart though. No sooner did we buy the tickets than we found out we had a conflict. Every fall we go to this cabin in the middle of nowhere and spend the weekend with my girlfriend's dad's side of the family. Usually we have a pretty good time. It's supposed to be on the third weekend of October every year, but this year time has been rewritten and apparently it was always on the second weekend of October, at least according to her family. (Whichever one we think is the correct answer, they will insist the opposite). So it looked like we'd have to miss this beloved cabin weekend, which was greeted with no small amount of passive aggression by my girlfriend's sister. No, as disappointing as this was, I decided I could probably live without the family weekend this year. We actually spent time at the cabin this last summer for a completely different event, and with the magic of the place wearing off I realized the upkeep isn't quite what it could have been: there was mouse shit all over our bedroom, broken furniture, a three-month old hot dog rotting in a trashcan, and the laundry room next to us kept flooding due to a broken washing machine. Plus, my girlfriend's family can be loud, obnoxious, rude, overbearing and judgmental . . . they'll do things like constantly forward us these insane right-wing emails ("Michelle Obama's new 'healthy' diet plan for America involves eating white children"!) with the tacit understanding that we're receiving these because we clearly agree. So, thought I, this year maybe I could use a break from vaguely racist conspiracy theories and piles of mouse turds. We firmly resolved to attend the concert.

Our resolve to go to the Bloomington show in lieu of the cabin sounded great, but then things started to take a nosedive. It didn't seem financially viable when adding up the costs of gas, food and motel rooms, plus we found out that my best friend would probably have to bail on the weekend entirely, since he and his wife just had a baby. Thankfully, a couple weeks after we bought the tickets, the St. Louis date at the Riverport Amphitheatre I mean UMB Bank Pavilion I mean Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre was added. With this turn of events, my friend could go! And the tickets were cheaper! And no extra money for fuel and motel rooms and bad motel room porn! Just kidding. I don't watch motel porn. It's too expensive, you loser.

The new concert date was actually fortuitous for another reason, as well. Sixteen years ago, my friend and I were supposed to see Marilyn Manson at Mississippi Nights on 10/05/96 for the third date of the very first "Antichrist Superstar" tour. It would have been amazing to see Manson in one of his last smaller club shows just before the band broke big, plus Mississippi Nights was an excellent venue. But sadly we were depending on someone to drive us (we did not yet operate the motor vehicles), and as both concert-going and filmmaking have taught me, whenever you depend on a friend to show up for something important that is the precise moment they will flake out on you and ditch. By the time I feebly got my father to reluctantly agree to take us, it was too late, and the show had completely sold out. We instead spent that evening at another friend's birthday party, being threatened at knife-point for our urine. It sucked. (Though, come to think of it, the same thing may have happened had we gone to the Manson show).

So this new date was like retribution! We finally get to see Manson on 10/5, just sixteen years later than we thought. And now my girlfriend and I would be able to sleep in mouse crap and hear about how the government wants to put Catholics in prison. It all worked out? I will admit, I was a little bummed that our seats weren't as good as they would have been at Bloomington, plus I had been looking forward to the autumn drive through the middle of Illinois, because I'm gay (for Joshua Jackson) like that. And I actually don't really like the Verizon outdoor venue that much. The parking is terrible, and I had a bad experience seeing Nine Inch Nails there twelve years ago (I'll put that story at the end of this post, in case you're still reading, which you won't be).

Oh, and this event was part of Pointergeist, our "alternative" radio station 105.7 The Point's annual Halloween concert. I had the misfortune of seeing Manson play at Pointergeist nine years ago. It was at Pop's, this awesomely awful heavy metal biker bar situated next to a strip club across the river in East St. Louis. It's still 1987 there, with the ghosts of headbangers waiting for Whitesnake to return and redeem them. (Not that it can't be a fun place. You just have to see a sleazy/trashy band. I saw The Cramps and My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult perform there, and it couldn't have been a better venue). Anyway, Pointergeist that year was in the Pop's parking lot, which may be the most depressing place ever. I've heard even the cocaine will make you sadder. That night, it was extremely cold, and you could tell Manson just wanted to get the fuck off the stage. He even greeted us by saying "St. Louis . . . it's fuckin' cold out here". And the audience was terrible, mostly consisting of white nu-metal suburbanites who hate God/the President/their parents/the gayness they can't admit to, and drunk jock and frat dudes mainly there for the beer and the strip club. So it was more of the Point's audience, not really a Manson audience. Remembering all of this made me very nervous, as I wasn't excited about a repeat of the Pointergeist experience.

Hazekiah
10-07-2012, 09:20 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/68402_10151283761484363_359231217_n.jpg

The great Haz with the great setlist, found on Facebook.

Haha, that was GREAT to find waiting for me here, thanks!

And the setlist WAS definitely a great one, but I don't know. Still kinda seems like it's missing something up there.

Oh, waitaminit....


http://imageshack.us/a/img231/6796/mansonsetliststlouis201.jpg

Yeahhhh, THERE we go!

THAT'S THE STUFF.

:D

pflumtamas
10-07-2012, 10:55 PM
Backstage St. Louis in the Zombie dressing room - Ginger, Manson, Spider, Twiggy and RZ
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302196_10151121276073323_2016593615_n.jpg
(@www.facebook.com/RobZombie)

Gloominatus
10-08-2012, 06:55 AM
You guys are lucky. Wow, Spider totally looks like Billy Idol in that picture.

Gloominatus
10-08-2012, 07:21 AM
(part 2)

In terms of the upcoming concert, I did find some karmic hilarity in the fact that Powerman 5000 would be opening the show. Originally they were supposed to play at this great local club called the Firebird, and all summer I was tormenting my girlfriend, telling her I'd be forcing her to go to their show (she despises Powerman 5000). So there was a sense of righteousness when the announcement came down that Powerman 5000 would be changing their venue and instead be opening the tour for this one date and this one date only. I'm not really a fan either, but I did think it would be cool to see Spider One take the same stage as his brother Rob Zombie. (I wonder why they don't have the same last name. Different fathers, maybe?).

Yes, yes, I'm getting to the goddamn show. Sorry. So flashforward to this last Friday. Already things are going wrong. We had for weeks been trying desperately (and failing) to sell the three Bloomington tickets. We really couldn't afford to buy two sets of tickets, and now the burn is catching up with us, as we've had a lot of unexpected expenses lately. We managed to sell two of them a few days ago, but the third as of yet remains unsold, meaning we're out about forty bucks. Balls. But on Friday we received the money for the other two Bloomington tickets, money we really needed, so that was better than nothing, now that control is gone. Orgy reference! Why am I still typing?

Anyway, that morning it's pouring rain and in the upper forties, and we find out that the temperature will be dropping into the mid-thirties, y'know, around when the show is starting. And the venue isn't allowing umbrellas, because of their weapon potential at a hard rock show . . . though truly, wouldn't it be awesome if there was a full-scale umbrella battle at a concert? But I digest. Thankfully we had seats which were theoretically covered, so with any luck an umbrella wouldn't be needed. I knew from looking at the seating chart, however, that our seats were bad. I bought the cheapest seats I could get, and what we gained in protection from the rain we made up for in not being able to see anything beyond the far right of the stage. I'd rather do that than be standing on the wet grass, falling a step behind, but it's admittedly not the optimal decision for bands with a highly visual stage show. We also found out that a former friend of ours with a highly toxic, revenge-driven personality would be there, and there was fear of having to see or be seated near this person, as we have great reason to believe this individual does not wish us well. So already, the three of us were sort of dreading the combination of freezing cold, lame seats, psycho ex-friends, and the mini-Ozzfest atmosphere of Pointergeist, while looking forward to seeing Rob Zombie for the first time, and of course seeing Manson again (my sixth, her second, and my friend's fifth, respectively).

As we pulled up in front of my friend's house--so we could all head to the show together--we noticed our car didn't feel right. Our morning commute had felt a bit bumpy that day, but I tried to convince myself it was just all the water on the highway. And maybe it was. By the time we got to his house early that evening, though, the culprit was obvious. One of our back tires was completely and totally flat, with a big fucking nail stuck right in the side of it. Odds that the tire could be repaired were nil, so this meant another unexpected cost that we really couldn't afford. We were also set back about twenty minutes or so while we changed the tire to a spare in the miserable weather. I was starting to feel rather cursed by this point, considering how much had seemingly been going wrong. Oh well, nothing would stop us from getting to the show. We took my friend's car and grabbed a quick bite to eat. We figgered there was plenty of time, as the doors were at 7:00 and we were under the impression that DJ Slipscreamknot and Powerman 5000 both had to take the stage well before the headlining acts.

Gloominatus
10-08-2012, 09:12 AM
(part 3)

We got to the venue at about quarter till 8:00. The parking lot at Verizon feels like it's several counties away from the actual concert area, so there was quite a jaunt involved. It really wouldn't have been so bad had there not been endless, deep puddles of rainwater that looked like small lakes in every direction. By the time we got to the front gate around 8:00, our feet were wet and already starting to freeze. We hit some additional chop as we tried to get through security, as my girlfriend had brought a blanket with her, and apparently blankets were also not allowed in the venue at hard rock shows. (They must really think of us as dangerous, if blankets are considered unsafe in our hands). After ditching the blanket under a tree, we and our wet socks got through the main gate and into the concert grounds.

Now, I may have been crazy, but I thought I heard music coming from the stage just beyond the hill. In fact, I could have sworn it was "Disposable Teens". That's weird, I thought. Why would DJ Slipstream or Powermad 500 be covering a Marilyn Manson song? It just didn't make any sense. I also heard moaning, hissing, screeching and growling, and couldn't understand what they could be doing to this poor cat on stage. Then, it hit me. DJ Starbuck and Powerdrill 5 weren't on the stage, and that wasn't a cat with pneumonia being tortured to death. Marilyn Manson was performing, and they were already two songs into the show. Godfuckingdammit. We'd already bought tickets to this tour twice, lost money, gave up good seats for shitty ones, got some money back, were about to lose it again (and more!) for car repairs, couldn't feel our toes, and now we've missed the beginning of the concert. Like a movie or butt sex, I prefer to start at the beginning, because it's easier to get in the mood of things and build up suspense. By the time we found our seats, we'd missed "The Love Song" (and his cool new outfit for evil Catholics) too. I was so annoyed. I wanted to treat my friend to this show, and it was already partly over.

I stood there just really pissed off for the next few songs. Now I know, I know. Plenty of people have had much worse concert experiences than this, and at least we had actual seats. It's a risk you take when going to shows. It was just the cumulative effect of the whole thing, so it was hard not to feel disappointed, and I needed a few songs for it to burn off. Plus, there were no statues with wieners (see review of KC show last spring) at this venue, which just made it not as special. I grimaced my way through "No Reflection" and some other songs. I marginally cheered up during "mOBSCENE," mainly due to the digital signs on the stage that were flashing words like "AIDS" and "Rapey". But what pulled me out of the funk was when I realized they were playing "Murderers Are Getting Prettier Every Day". This was just what I needed. Pissed off, chaotic, and a song I've never heard live before. I've always been a smidge disappointed with how predictable Manson's setlists have become in the last decade, so it was fucking great to see some real spontaneity and variety on this tour. For this song, Manson wore these futuristic serial killer goggles that made him look like a pervert demon in a Guillermo del Toro movie. How could I not feel better?

Gloominatus
10-08-2012, 09:18 AM
(part 4)

After that, I was back to my old self. Though our seats were indeed terrible, we could see most of what was happening onstage. I especially enjoyed the giant red Celebritarian crosses hanging over the proceedings. Manson gave what for me was his first truly inspired performance of "Personal Jesus," one of the absolute highlights of the night. Another highlight, "Coma White/Coma Black" was especially haunting and beautiful, despite some tech problems in the middle of the song. I wouldn't say Manson's voice was in fine form (there was a lot of vocal straining and drop outs), but I would say he sounded good. He's a punk rock singer, so you can't exactly expect pristine vocals, though he sounds better some nights than others. During “Sweet Dreams,” Manson’s mumbling actually made him sound like Bane from the new Batman movie. I was hoping he would suddenly go “Grashy lish blay!” but that never happened. It was a blast to finally hear "King Kill 33" live (apparently those are now the only words to the song), and to hear Twiggy taking over the vocal duties. I really enjoyed the new barbed wire set up for the "Antichrist Superstar" podium, though the performance in Kansas City last May will always be my favorite live rendition of that song.

As he's done at some other shows, Manson interacted with the interpreter for the deaf, getting her to hand-cuss for the crowd. He also asked who in the audience was deaf, and when some people immediately applauded he was like "Oh come on, you're not deaf. Stop it". Marilyn Manson is cool. I like him. He was being particularly charming and even gave the interpreter lady a hug, which was sweet. The show closed with "The Beautiful People", as it always does, and Manson did some rather hilarious crowd interaction by drawing out the cheers at the end of the song. He seems especially happy onstage lately. I missed some of the deadpan humor between songs from the KC show, but Manson was still more than enjoyable here.

I did have some trouble applauding, as I had these soft gloves that made absolutely no noise when I struck them together, meaning my cheers were forever silenced by the cold meaningless indifference of the universe. These gloves were great for keeping warm, but they had a mind of their own. At one point I caught them rubbing my girlfriend's rather massive breasts, which was completely inappropriate. I was worried that they would touch someone else in a private place, and that I'd get thrown out by security while the gloves would get to stay. During "Beautiful People," the gloves were drumming the seat in front of me, only for me to look down and realize there was a stoned/sick guy sitting in the seat. I felt bad for him. If he wants to sue them, I've got the gloves right here, completely unaware of the hurt they caused. Fucking assholes.

Gloominatus
10-08-2012, 09:21 AM
(part 5)

After the intermission, the giant screens next to the stage displayed an unending stream of text messages from concertgoers ("marlyn mansin rokcs!!!!!!.!!!" "mary me kathleen ur so beautful baby i lu v u" "does n e 1 hav rub zombies phone # LOL"). Once I finished shooting myself in the head, Rob Zombie took the stage. I have to say he put on one of the best stage shows I've ever seen. It was unbelievable. Lots of songs, new and old. I was particularly impressed with his performance, because a seemingly endless parade of hell robots from outer space kept wandering onstage and interrupting his show, and he never missed a beat. Why, he even let one give him a piggy back ride! That Rob Zombie is a pretty good sport. I know I would've been annoyed if people kept walking onto my stage mid-performance. John 5 and Ginger Fish were also there, which means we got to see the best lineup ever of Marilyn Manson, just spread out over two bands. Near the end of the show, John 5 performed a truly amazing guitar solo, amazing in and of itself considering that guitar solos are rarely ever amazing anymore. During his 45-minute solo, the stage was bathed in trippy red pentagrams and upside down crosses . . . it was like being magically whisked away to the 70s, when everyone was mellower and worshipped Satan.

During the encore, we were treated to a trailer for a movie called "Lords of Salem," which coincidentally was also directed by someone named Rob Zombie. I think it's really cool that these Robs Zombies are able to coordinate their efforts like this. Rob's stage banter was admittedly a little weird, consisting largely of things like "Are you ready to party, St. Louis?! I can't hear you!", which just made him look like an insane homeless preacher on acid trying to get into a strip club. (He should have been at the Pointergeist nine years ago. Boom!). They also had some technical issues during the show, ironically with the pyro, which was by far the most needed element at that particular point, given how cold it was. We did feel the lameness of our seats moreso with Zombie's show, because there were a significant amount of cool things happening onstage that we simply could not see at all. But all in all it was a fantastic time.

When the show ended, none of us could feel our feet, and I'm fairly certain some type of brain damage had set in. But we'd been rocked hard, like your mom did to that guy last night. Was it worth all the trouble? I don't know. I'm going to mostly say yes, but with reservations. Things didn't quite go smoothly, and the new tire we had to get the next morning really negated our partial financial recovery. In fact, we wound up spending about as much on all this as we would have at the Bloomington show, so I'm not exactly sure what was saved. But my friend had a great time and was very happy, so that feels like pay off enough, though I still feel guilty that he missed the first three Manson songs. Oh, and we never did run into the psycho, which is good, as my gloves wouldn't have been afraid to molest/fight that person.

Okay, that's it. Are you still reading? Jesus Christ, I'm so sorry. Here's my Nine Inch Nails story from what was then the Riverport Amphitheater:

Summer of 2000. NIN is touring for "The Fragile". I've never seen them live before and can't wait to go, but I have no money. My cousin offers to buy us both tickets. Thank you, cousin! While buying the tickets, we have to choose between seats or the lawn. I want seats, she wants the lawn. I complain. She tells me that she doesn't like NIN enough to justify paying for seats, and that I am being unreasonable and have no right to complain as she's the one paying for the tickets. I have to grumpily concede that she's right. I mostly get over it. We go to the concert. Some of my friends are there, who I never get to see because one of their girlfriends doesn't like me because she thinks I don't like her. It's stupid. Tonight an exception is being made and I am allowed to hang out with them. But my cousin doesn't want to hang out with my friends. She doesn't like them. She wants to hang out with people from the restaurant where she works. I don't like them. But mostly because my cousin is dating a good friend of mine, but is cheating on him with this guy she works with. She wants to spend the concert with aforementioned guy. We are at an impasse. She reminds me that she bought my ticket, so I should be spending time with her. I tell my friends I'll try to catch up with them later. We meet up with her work people. They suck. She keeps kissing and flirting with that guy. I asked her not to do that in front of me. A Perfect Circle starts playing. She's bored, and asks me to go with her while she gets a beer. I tell her I don't want to miss the band. She reminds me that we're supposed to be hanging out together. I go with her. While at the concession stand, a huge apocalyptic storm blows in. Everyone takes shelter. When we return to the lawn post-storm, we can't find my friends. No choice but to spend the rest of the evening with her people. NIN performs and it's a lot of fun. My cousin leaves to get beer during all the songs she doesn't know or like. After the show, we find my friends in the parking lot. They tell me that during the storm, the crowd rushed to the empty chairs, so they actually wound up with center seats for the NIN performance. They ask if I want to hang out for a while. My cousin tells me she wants to go to Denny's with her friends, and reminds me yet again that I owe her. Even though I'm the one driving, I swallow my rage and concede. I give her friends a lift and they misquote the whole retarded "I had a dream last night" speech from "Last Tour On Earth", because THEY LOVE DRUGS. At Denny's, one of her work friends who hates black people and calls his girlfriend "cum dumpster" is rude and demanding to our waitress the whole time. I am embarrassed. We finally leave. She makes out in front of me with the guy with whom she's cheating on my friend. Again, I asked her not to do this. Finally, we're on the way home. I am ready to strangle her. She looks over at me and goes "I had the best time tonight. Next time, I'm definitely getting seats!" I almost drove us into the fucking Missouri River.

The end.

Audrey Fish
10-08-2012, 10:07 AM
Manson's interaction with the deaf interpreter was pretty adorable.

"If you were deaf you wouldn't have heard me say that...stop it"

Does anyone know the story with the openers? I thought both DJ Starscream and Powerman 5000 were supposed to open, therefore Manson wouldn't be taking the stage until at least 8:30 or 9:00...but we got there a little late (8:15-ish) and Manson was already finishing The Love Song by the time we found our seats. Disappointing!

Hazekiah
10-08-2012, 05:03 PM
MURDERERS ARE GETTING PRETTIER EVERY DAY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRbpNwlZlo&amp;feature=youtu.be

Hazekiah
10-09-2012, 01:06 AM
THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh36405gAog&amp;feature=youtu.be

TH15x15xMYxOMeGA
10-09-2012, 07:49 AM
THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh36405gAog&feature=youtu.be

Haha I love him with the interpreter for the deaf fans. Quite hilarious. The whole band sounds great here! Very cool how Jason gave away his cymbals and sticks (I'm actually really surprised how well that cymbal flew). I didn't really like Manson's outfit by the end of the show because it makes him look a little chunkier. But the sound and performance are really all that matters in the end so it seemed like a great show :)

AssetReign
10-09-2012, 10:11 AM
^ I know everyone keeps saying this but he seems to be enjoying himself much more these days, in all aspects of his life, and it comes through on stage.

*Just a minor point, but she isn't a "deaf interpreter." She's an interpreter for the deaf.

TH15x15xMYxOMeGA
10-09-2012, 02:43 PM
Yeah I totally agree. If him and the guys are enjoying themselves, that's the best show I could ask for.
And sorry about that. I have a deaf friend so I definitely didn't mean to be offensive. I'll correct it.

Gloominatus
10-09-2012, 03:39 PM
^ I know everyone keeps saying this but he seems to be enjoying himself much more these days, in all aspects of his life, and it comes through on stage.




Yeah, this is definitely the most fun I've ever seen him having onstage. Both shows we saw this year were Manson at his happiest.

Gloominatus
10-09-2012, 03:41 PM
Manson's interaction with the deaf interpreter was pretty adorable.

"If you were deaf you wouldn't have heard me say that...stop it"

Does anyone know the story with the openers? I thought both DJ Starscream and Powerman 5000 were supposed to open, therefore Manson wouldn't be taking the stage until at least 8:30 or 9:00...but we got there a little late (8:15-ish) and Manson was already finishing The Love Song by the time we found our seats. Disappointing!

Maybe their way of being evil was starting the show too early.

Scorpion
10-09-2012, 04:42 PM
Haz, thanks a lot for these videos! :)
Great songs done greatly... but... Seriously, Manson? Fuck you for messing up the lyrics for Murderers all the 3~4 times you played it this year. -_-

He sounded great though (when he knew the FUCKING lyrics to the song that is on his NEW RECORD that came out THIS YEAR).

The Wax Gentleman
10-09-2012, 05:17 PM
I don't think it's a problem if he wears a shirt that makes him look too chunky... I appreciate that he doesn't try to hide it.

...TOO much.

pflumtamas
10-10-2012, 12:34 PM
Antichrist Superstar


http://youtu.be/qSwFwtd8OFU

Rock is Dead


http://youtu.be/sQcuxAG9ltk

DIETOMORROW
10-12-2012, 05:48 PM
Yeah I totally agree. If him and the guys are enjoying themselves, that's the best show I could ask for.
And sorry about that. I have a deaf friend so I definitely didn't mean to be offensive. I'll correct it.

I haven't been to nor have I seen any of the shows so I can't comment on their quality but I will say that it's great if they are having fun on stage...but the fans are paying to see it so the best thing we could ask for is if WE have fun. If WE enjoy the show because Manson and camp are bringing their A game. There's a difference between them having fun and them putting on a good show. I'm sure the Jersey Shore idiots are having a TON of fun but that doesn't mean they're doing anything of quality. I hope fun AND quality are being showcased at these shows.

Okay, that's my cynical rant for the day. Continue on :)

loftvoker
10-12-2012, 07:30 PM
A little bit of a follow up - a coworker of mine actually ended up going unbeknownst to me and his first words were "Manson seemed to be drunk and moaning often". I'm glad to hear it's not just me, even as a fan, that Manson has lost it according to a non-fan.

Hazekiah
12-15-2012, 08:01 PM
Sweet Dreams/TRG Outro
Coma White/Coma Black
King Kill 33/Antichrist Superstar



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJew5yB78zI

Hazekiah
12-09-2017, 11:34 AM
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