kleiner352
04-15-2013, 04:12 PM
Seriously. We make tons of threads going into really small and unimportant things of how [insert band here] references MM and go really in-depth over it but I still have never seen a realistic examination of this. In this interview: http://www.mansonwiki.com/wiki/Interview:2007/05/12_Red_Carpet_Grave , MM talks about the title track (which is a strong favorite of mine).
If you don't want to read through the article here is the relevant part:
"To me it's the scariest and darkest track on the record. In some ways I had imagined that title being attached to it much earlier but never mentioned it to anyone. It was the last song I finished and is pretty much why it's the ending... There are a lot of things about EAT ME, DRINK ME that are strange, unusual and disturbing to me.
It's truly a really upsetting song because there are a lot of things that don't fit right in audio phase or in the stereo spectrum. There are a lot of things that don't fit right sonically which is an intentional creation, but not in a way that was forced. There's a third verse that appears in a chopped up manner that has as many lyrics as the other two verses. I did not include that one in the booklet simply because I thought it would be interesting to allow people to interpret it how they want to. I didn't want to put it in front of your eyes to affect how your ears hear it.
This song was really interesting in its arrangement musically when Tim presented it to me. It's very similar to how it appears now, but I was really affected in a lot of ways and attached to the guitar in that song, especially in the chorus when it opens up more. At first I didn't know if I wanted to sing on it. I thought maybe it was meant to be an instrumental piece, and I finally figured out what needed to be said. I had found a notebook that had a very erratic and couldn't explain to myself what these writings were. A lot of these writings were notes or a sketched out concept for a visual, cinematic scene. I don't know if it was an early concept for Phantasmagoria, or just something I wanted to do visually because I write everything that I think of down.
I realized at the time that day I had finished reading a different book by Vladimir Nabokov. Lolita was obviously a book that I was very drawn to and inspired by... I was reading an Invitation to a Beheading, which is a really fantastic book as well. The song has a lot of literature references in it. They weren't specifically intended to be that, but that song really tied together everything in the same way that the painting I did of The Flowers of Evil.
There are different reasons for putting things in different places. There's another verse that essentially because of the arrangement, I felt that there wasn't a need to have a musical chorus or verse. I found that that spot that it exists in really made it the right place to say it. When I hear it, it's really upsetting to me in a strange way. I can't really decide how, but I'm very pleased with that song."
So basically there's an entire verse that's messed with and no one has seemed to figure it out at all. I've heard some B.S. answers like "I hear voices in my head" but if it's the same length as the other verses then at best that's a single part of it. If you listen to the part in question even you can make out syllables and sounds but really no coherent sentences and parts that are obviously either backmasked or placed over other lyrics to the point of incomprehension.
Any ideas? Any thoughts on how to figure this out? It's bothered me for a long time and I've still seen no solutions for this.
If you don't want to read through the article here is the relevant part:
"To me it's the scariest and darkest track on the record. In some ways I had imagined that title being attached to it much earlier but never mentioned it to anyone. It was the last song I finished and is pretty much why it's the ending... There are a lot of things about EAT ME, DRINK ME that are strange, unusual and disturbing to me.
It's truly a really upsetting song because there are a lot of things that don't fit right in audio phase or in the stereo spectrum. There are a lot of things that don't fit right sonically which is an intentional creation, but not in a way that was forced. There's a third verse that appears in a chopped up manner that has as many lyrics as the other two verses. I did not include that one in the booklet simply because I thought it would be interesting to allow people to interpret it how they want to. I didn't want to put it in front of your eyes to affect how your ears hear it.
This song was really interesting in its arrangement musically when Tim presented it to me. It's very similar to how it appears now, but I was really affected in a lot of ways and attached to the guitar in that song, especially in the chorus when it opens up more. At first I didn't know if I wanted to sing on it. I thought maybe it was meant to be an instrumental piece, and I finally figured out what needed to be said. I had found a notebook that had a very erratic and couldn't explain to myself what these writings were. A lot of these writings were notes or a sketched out concept for a visual, cinematic scene. I don't know if it was an early concept for Phantasmagoria, or just something I wanted to do visually because I write everything that I think of down.
I realized at the time that day I had finished reading a different book by Vladimir Nabokov. Lolita was obviously a book that I was very drawn to and inspired by... I was reading an Invitation to a Beheading, which is a really fantastic book as well. The song has a lot of literature references in it. They weren't specifically intended to be that, but that song really tied together everything in the same way that the painting I did of The Flowers of Evil.
There are different reasons for putting things in different places. There's another verse that essentially because of the arrangement, I felt that there wasn't a need to have a musical chorus or verse. I found that that spot that it exists in really made it the right place to say it. When I hear it, it's really upsetting to me in a strange way. I can't really decide how, but I'm very pleased with that song."
So basically there's an entire verse that's messed with and no one has seemed to figure it out at all. I've heard some B.S. answers like "I hear voices in my head" but if it's the same length as the other verses then at best that's a single part of it. If you listen to the part in question even you can make out syllables and sounds but really no coherent sentences and parts that are obviously either backmasked or placed over other lyrics to the point of incomprehension.
Any ideas? Any thoughts on how to figure this out? It's bothered me for a long time and I've still seen no solutions for this.