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S.D.
06-24-2009, 02:50 PM
Here are some more images and comparisons from posts originally submitted at The Heirophant. Again, apologies to anyone familiar with these, I just don't want this material to go to waste.


http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/3-1.jpg

Divided by the years

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Hicks.jpg

Bill Hicks, from his London show Revelations, and Marilyn Manson in the video for Arma-Goddamn-Motherfuckin'-Geddon

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Deneuve.jpg

Catherine Deneuve as vampire Miriam Blaylock in The Hunger (featuring David Bowie), and Evan Rachel Wood, circa 2007.

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/whistle.jpg

Marilyn Manson and Alejandro Jodorowsky in El Topo

The Empirical Guy
06-24-2009, 10:20 PM
That thing with the cage in HW is a good find. I'd seen the band pic but had never picked up on the one of Twiggy before, despite the countless times i've seen the pic

Hate Sells
06-26-2009, 03:01 PM
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Rabbit.jpg

I noticed this picture quite a few times over at the Heirophant...but I never really understood where it came from. Does it have something to do with Phantasmagoria...?

S.D.
06-26-2009, 03:08 PM
I noticed this picture quite a few times over at the Heirophant...but I never really understood where it came from. Does it have something to do with Phantasmagoria...?

Yes, it was part of two images that were part of flash on the official site at one point. My memory is hazy, so it may or may not have been after the Celebritarian seizure, but it was there with a picture of the 'Tweedle' girls.

Norsefire
06-26-2009, 03:26 PM
I noticed this picture quite a few times over at the Heirophant...but I never really understood where it came from. Does it have something to do with Phantasmagoria...?

Yes, it was part of two images that were part of flash on the official site at one point. My memory is hazy, so it may or may not have been after the Celebritarian seizure, but it was there with a picture of the 'Tweedle' girls.

I guess it was sort of in between it all.
Marilynmanson.com got seized by the Celebritarian Corporation, then a phantasmagoria update happened. First off it was just the 'Tweedle' girls, and then shortly after they edited it and this image of the rabbit would pop up after a few seconds.
Then the Celebritarian splash pages went up with the spinning daggers etc.

Hate Sells
06-26-2009, 05:40 PM
Thank you S.D. and Norsefire...but I still only vaguely remember this. I don't remember the Tweedle Girls, either... Does anyone happen to have some screencaps?

S.D.
06-26-2009, 05:46 PM
Thank you S.D. and Norsefire...but I still only vaguely remember this. I don't remember the Tweedle Girls, either... Does anyone happen to have some screencaps?

I'm sorry, this the best I have.


http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Miscellaneous/01-1.jpg

Anima XI
06-28-2009, 05:24 AM
The demon named "Buer"

http://www.rahoorkhuit.net/library/ceremonial/classics/plancy/s_p12.gif

The movie poster for "Kabaret"

http://www.movieposterdb.com/posters/07_11/1972/68327/l_68327_61c91a55.jpg

The Lest we Forget CD

http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/lestweforget.jpg

And possibly....?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wgh3P0eqLmk/SS31VOSbBNI/AAAAAAAADCQ/blQwQPnoxas/s400/swastika.png


Edit: Oh, almost forgot --

http://musicremedy.com/webfiles/artists/GoonMoon/GoonMoon-01-big.jpg

S.D.
06-28-2009, 07:51 AM
I'm glad someone picked up on those links, I wanted to write something up on the connection with Pretty As A Swastika, but I'm glad someone got there. I presume the Cabaret poster you've tried to link is this one:-


http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/CabaretPoster.jpg

Hate Sells
06-28-2009, 08:14 AM
I noticed the swastika thing right away, but never really bothered to say anything...it's cool that you noticed the Goon Moon/LWF parrallels as well, Anima XI. :) BTW, I really like your username...it's interesting. Does it have anything to do with Carl Jung's theory of archetypes...?

Also, thank you for posting those pictures, S.D. and Oedepus...those are great! :) They look kind of familiar, but that was a while ago... In the third one that you posted, Oedepus; although it seems fairly obvious, I'm not sure if anyone has pointed this out before, but the two girls (their shoes and socks mainly, but also the fact that they are so young) seem like classic representations of Lolita...(which points towards the fact that Manson met Evan earlier than he let on, but I don't want to get into that.) In the other pictures, the dolls/girls with masks (I'm not sure which) remind me of the Tourniquet video.

Furthermore (and I know this is a bit of a stretch, but...) the regular swastika obviously has four "legs", while the Lest We Forget cover has five, and the Licker's Last Leg cover only has three.

http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/lestweforget.jpg
http://musicremedy.com/webfiles/artists ... 01-big.jpg (http://musicremedy.com/webfiles/artists/GoonMoon/GoonMoon-01-big.jpg)

3x5=15...is it possible that Twiggy did this intentionally as a nod to Manson...?

Anima XI
06-28-2009, 10:20 AM
I'm glad someone picked up on those links, I wanted to write something up on the connection with Pretty As A Swastika, but I'm glad someone got there. I presume the Cabaret poster you've tried to link is this one:-

IMG

Yes, that's the one, guess my link got messed up. Thanks.


I noticed the swastika thing right away, but never really bothered to say anything...it's cool that you noticed the Goon Moon/LWF parrallels as well, Anima XI. :) BTW, I really like your username...it's interesting. Does it have anything to do with Carl Jung's theory of archetypes...?


Thanks =) Yes, Jung's archetype theory was part of the influence. "Anima I" and "Anima II" are also the titles of two Sopor Aeternus songs. And I chose XI (11) because it's a special number to me.

S.D.
06-28-2009, 03:24 PM
I want to try and get these older comparisons out of the way so I can move on to other things. If anyone was active in posting 'Visual Parallels' at The Heirophant, please repost whatever you offered here, I cannot remember every one of them, and it would be good to have them all in one place. From the (s)AINT video:-


http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Rope.jpg

Man Ray's Restored Venus:-

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/RestoredVenus.jpg

http://www.arcvertuel.org/?q=node/285


I am aware that the rope arrangement used in (s)AINT is part of a sexual practice, but I felt the comparison was worth making anyway.

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Marilyn Manson and Nosferatu

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Nosferatu.jpg
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Marilyn Manson's painting When I Get Old, and Aleister Crowley.

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/older.jpg

Komakino
06-30-2009, 09:20 AM
I agree with most in this thread, but "Marilyn Manson and Nosferatu" is really farfetched in my opinion.

Hate Sells
07-01-2009, 08:14 PM
^ You really think so...? For some reason, I had thought it had something to do with Rose... :\

Hate Sells
07-02-2009, 08:11 AM
Oh...I see that now. I never really noticed that before...nice find. :) I thought you were comparing the two girls to Twiggy and Ginger, based on the color of their hair, lol...I feel stupid now.

S.D.
07-03-2009, 02:32 AM
I agree with most in this thread, but "Marilyn Manson and Nosferatu" is really farfetched in my opinion.

Of course these things don't have to be implicit, but I would have thought that a story about a Vampire who seduces a young woman would draw rather specific comparison with the man who penned If I Was Your Vampire. Consider that part of the Dracula/Nosferatu myth is the concealing of a monsterous nature under the guise of being a mortal man.
Also, in my image comparison, both figures are seen standing at the window, which in film theory, is often a portent of some domestic disturbance, or oppression. Also, the notion of the eyes being the "windows to the soul" suggests that with the imagery of the hearts and eyes during EAT ME, DRINK ME, the Vampire views the soul of the victim as it stops the heart. Also, the Vampire, in its more erotic incarnations, is a peculiar mixture of male and female sexualities, being that the portrayal of sexual prowess is their physical seduction, but the actual domination is the drawing of fluid from areas of the body; the almost phallic neck gendering the act as female, thus presenting the Vampire as having both male and female attributes. I think the blood and internalisation of childbirth is present as well, in that the act of turning a person into a Vampire is life coming from death, with sexual intercourse having been called the "little death" by various sources.
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Marilyn Manson and Lady Gaga:-


http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/MansonGaga2.jpg


Thank you to Nick Sixx. for locating these images, I believe he has some more comparisons with Lady Gaga to offer, which I look forward to.
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I might make this known in The High End Of Low thread as well, but whilst watching Cabaret this morning, I noted an imagery comparison that wasn't necessarily utilised during The Golden Age of Grotesque, during which the film was most obviously referenced (click for thumbnails):-


http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5757/kabaretbowler.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6226/americanh.jpg


You'll note the use of the reversed bowler hat as a military helmet by EmCee and the girls, and their panties and suspenders, in black, much thse same as the white version worn by the mysterious girl in the We're From America image.

Not Mechanical
07-27-2009, 08:39 AM
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/NotMechanical/281x211.jpghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/NotMechanical/normal_01.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/NotMechanical/BRANDONMAKEUPuihkio3.pnghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/NotMechanical/mm-1.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/NotMechanical/killers.jpghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/NotMechanical/madrugs2.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm30 ... e3c8c6.jpg (http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/NotMechanical/47e3c8c6.jpg)

These are more pictures I thought looked similar, rather than suggesting there is any real connection between them.

S.D.
10-28-2009, 07:52 AM
As covered in various topics, Leni Riefenstahl is "as pretty as a swastika":-


http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/MansonRiefenstahl.jpg


Leni Riefenstahl vs. Marilyn Manson --- "Lietz, Kamera, Aktion!" --- On the subject of which... No, I don't necessarily think it is deliberate, yes, I do think it is cool as fuck:-


http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/whorror.jpg



http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/27/dali_soldier_warning.jpg

Soldier Take Warning by Salvador Dali

http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/OUOSelKCz1M/hqdefault.jpg

Doppelherz

http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/n ... amese2.jpg (http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/nk_mobscene_siamese2.jpg)

mOBSCENE


"We know it's all braille beneath the skirt"

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Twins.jpg
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http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Violation.jpg


From Manson's MySpace pictures, the first thing that came to mind... Obviously the album that featured Personal Jesus...
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Noting a visual parallel between an image used in a current Nachtkaberett article and another of Manson, I was inspired to write this: "THE APE WAS A GREAT BIG HIT" (http://www.nachtkabarett.com/babalon/topic/3273--See-No-Truth-Hear-No-Truth-Speak-No-Truth-3-Wise-Monkeys/post:65869#p65869)


http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Shoulder.jpg
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M and M --- I AM YOU (http://www.ultimatemansonbible.co.uk/message_board/viewtopic.php?f=23&p=29348#p29348)

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Blade.jpg

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Elvis.jpg

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Hood.jpg

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/LawSuit.jpg

AlcoholicArtist
11-07-2009, 10:14 AM
Great find S.D.!
Edit- oo never seen that clockwor orange pic of Eminem I like it

Anima XI
12-09-2009, 03:46 AM
Might it be possible that this logo for the band The Crüxshadows -

http://www.cruxshadows.de/img/cxs_logo.gif

- was partly inspired by the Celebritarian Cross? There's also duality in the logo, hence making it more of a possibility that it might've been Manson-inspired. However, I have never heard them publicly mention him as an influence.

Komakino
12-09-2009, 08:07 AM
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Blade.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/ZendoDeb/misc/amkubrick.jpg
Oh wait, this thread isn't about Eminem.

If you had posted this before I could've asked Rogue on sunday, when they played here. :P I really don't think so, isn't the CXS logo way older?

[god]speed
01-01-2010, 07:28 AM
From Fritz Lang's Metropolis ( You will recall the M hands from the Celebritarian Era MM.com that was a direct reference )

From Fritz Lang's Metropolis...

Maria, after being kidnapped by Rotwang, strapped to an operation table in the laboratory in a coma-like trance as the precursor to her forced transformation of The Machine Maria, The Whore of Babylon/

http://techyum.com/blog%20art/metropolis_big.jpg

http://www.providermodule.com/gallery/gallery_temp/ma/promo/full/image014.jpg

http://www.providermodule.com/gallery/gallery_temp/ma/promo/full/image016.jpg



To S.D.'s delight, (I hope ;) I have every intention of composing a well- constructed essay on the similarities to the parable in Metropolis compared to Manson's Triptych

AlcoholicArtist
01-01-2010, 07:33 AM
speed;55953']


To S.D.'s delight, (I hope ;) I have every intention of composing a well- constructed essay on the similarities to the parable in Metropolis compared to Manson's Triptych

Well I know that I'll be delighted, I fucking love Metropolis.

-<me>-
01-23-2010, 09:07 PM
I was trolling through my emails not too long ago and found all of my thread notifications from S.D.'s thread on The Heirophant. Unfortunately I don't have his opening post, and I'm sure that more than a few posts are missing. However, enjoy...


Originally posted by Saklas


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueUOTImKp0k&feature=related

Originally posted by Simple Simonist
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9382/favg1.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/9131/mmfu6.jpg


Originally posted by Azoth ([god]speed)

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/cloaked.jpg

My interpretation of this photo seems to convey that he is wrapping himself in leather as a child's security blanket, Covering his chest, perhaps symbolizing that he feels he must protect his heart, With a look of determination staring into the eyes of those who are awaiting him off frame as he knows he must face them. I get an image in my head of this as a metaphor for how he feels before he walks on stage,through the symbolism involved. As he bares his heart and soul for all to see, which must be the most vulnerable point in any artists life regardless of any form of 'fame', the soul remains with them and as mentioned...




Originally posted by S.D.
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/thinwhite.jpg



Originally posted by 531331
http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/lg/1/3/Andy-Warhol-Elvis--1963--triple-Elvis--133884.jpg
This came to mind when I saw the gun/cowboy picture from the MA-era.

Originally posted by Simple Simonist
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/1567/aphwql6.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/3949/avignon1455tf9.jpg
Enguerrand Quarton's Avignon Pietà, 1455; Musée du Louvre.

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4930/avdetij9.jpg
(detail)


Originally posted by Saklas
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f388/Celebritarian/thenightporter460.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f388/Celebritarian/MarilynManson-FightSong004_0001.jpg


more to come...

spaceSuicide
01-23-2010, 09:57 PM
Watch the new Rihanna music video "Hard"

One scene she has a helmet with Mickey Mouse ears on it similar to girls in Arma-goddamn-motherfuckin-geddon.

-<me>-
01-25-2010, 08:45 PM
Posts ranging Jan 22 - Feb 23, 2009.


Originally posted by S.D.
I'll place this here, as I've little desire to create an entire discussion for it. Whilst watching Dr. Strangelove again recently, I had forgotten entirely about the closing scenes during which a nuclear explosion is caused. It is done using one of two nuclear bombs, which are seen together before the dispatch:-
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/strangelove.jpg
Now, several things (many of which I'm sure are already obvious from the image supplied) came to mind when re-watching this sequence in relation to lyrics and themes explored on Holy Wood. We have a crossover of sorts in the two sets of words below:- "Dear John and all the King's mencan't put your head together again" "We write our prayers on a little bomb,kiss it on the face and send it to god" Not only that, but note that as a "safety" measure, both bombs have written on them the phrase "Handle With Care", which as well as being a prime example of Dr. Strangelove's inherent satire, also evokes the following:- "Her heart's a bloodstained egg,we didn't handle with care" I have theorised those lines in unrelated terms elsewhere, so I'm not stating an overt reference, just a pleasant similarity. I won't elaborate on the themes of Dr. Strangelove, for even with its futilist humour you should view it independently if you haven't before. I'll spoil very little by saying that a film which accidentally referenced the death of President Kennedy in its original format, and essentially lampoons the early 1960s climate of the Cold War (a period somewhat overlooked following the President's death) was surely an underlying influence for Marilyn Manson on some level. Not to mention that it is of course, a Stanley Kubrick project starring Peter Sellers, as was his film of Lolita. Not a visual comparison with one of Manson's own aesthetics, but a visual to be compared nonetheless.



Originally posted by Oedepus

Do I have to do everything for you?
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2459/p90bc0.jpg

Has he come to test me?
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8719/70515141yu0.jpg




Originally posted by Azoth ([god]speed)
Granted, this doesn't necessarily involve a direct visualization of Manson's art, and its nothing truly groundbreaking, with that being said, I was reading into The Black Death and the impact it had on Art and literature, I came across this image which reminded me of the lyrics 'We're a death marching band'
http://www.insecta-inspecta.com/fleas/bdeath/DanceODeath.gif
*"The Dance of Death"*by Hans Holbein the Younger"


Originally posted by S.D.
In relation to your image *Azoth*, one could also associate the lyric from (s)AINT: "I'm a bonetop, a Death's Head, on a mopstick". Consider further that the Dance of Death as pictured is a variation of the Danse Macabre, the Medieval practice of reverencing death as a way of rationalising life. In the context of Manson's work, I believe the use of these phrases is another aspect of Celebritarianism, the original concept of the Danse Macabre was that all peoples are united in death, as it makes no distinctions between rich or poor, young or old, class or creed. Michael Wolgemut's painting presents the dance as featuring an Emperor, a Maiden, a King and an Infant (the skull of which composes the Totenkopf):-
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/DanseMacabre.jpg
"If you're not dancing, then you're dead"


Originally posted by simple simonist
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/566/lennvm4.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2108/marknq7.jpg



Originally posted by S.D.
Hell Outro:-

http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/Nosferatu.jpg
Also, I once pointed out the correlation of the window frames in both Antichrist Superstar and EAT ME, DRINK ME. As was suggested about the latter album, one can identify the Celebritarian Cross:-
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/as_1.jpg


Originally posted by Saklas
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f388/Celebritarian/emdm.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f388/Celebritarian/replicas_twarmy.jpg


Originally posted by simple simonist
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1003/tamorayq4.jpg
Jessica Lange as Tamora, Queen of the Goths (the Iron Age tribe of Barbarians, not Manson 'fans') in "Titus" (1999), Julie Taymor's (director, also, of "Across the Universe") first film, an adaptation of Shakespeare's "Titus Andronicus"--his most violent (and according to scholars, worst) play. Tamora, long after being captured by Titus Andronicus, is seeking revenge on him for killing her son; she appears in this garb, dressed as an allegorical Revenge, hoping to drive him to madness.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8831/11309813fg7.jpg
Composite image of Manson, his face superimposed over a Renaissance emblem of spinning daggers (such as those swords which spin around Eden, protecting the Garden) alongside Third Reich symbolism, which appeared on marilynmanson.com during the Celebritarian exploration.


Originally posted by simple simonist
The video for The Nobodies was inspired by Julie Taymor's Titus (1999), allusions to which Manson made more recently during the Celebritarian exploration as I noted above. Manson, part of, or standing on, a tree stump in that scene of the music video wherein the band is silent, paints Manson and Twiggy--and veritably, the whole band--as Lavinia or Lavinias, the tragic heroine of Titus Andronicus, Shakespeare's most violent play. Twiggy and Manson, and possibly the entire band, depending on how good one's eye is, have twigs for hands, just as in Taymor's 1999 cinematic adaptation, Lavinia has her tongue ripped out, and her hands severed so that she might not identify those who had raped her. In the film, Lavinia is found standing on a tree stump, her own stumps (which Shakespeare actually called them) spewing forth bundles of twigs, her mouth bleeding as she tries to scream for help.
Promoting Holy Wood, Manson cited Shakespeare as an inspiration. He was also familiar with Taymor's infamous yet stunning adaptation of Shakespeare's most sadistic play. This is further evinced by the treatment of the video for The Nobodies which demands that the administrators of an orphanage sell their captives--children--to Manson, a powerful figure in the vicinity of the institution. The figure Manson plays then goes on to liberate the children through their purchase, and, in a move ripped directly from Titus, ensnares the former captors of the children (demonstrated by the vines tangling around the captors' hands as they collect Manson's money), and proceeds to bake them into a pie, he and the children eating it, and therefore, DEVOURing their former oppressors.
In Titus Andronicus, the eponymous star of the drama bakes the two remaining sons of Tamora, Queen of the Goths mentioned in my previous post, into two meat pies, which he serves to Tamora and her husband, Saturninus, the Emperor at his own dinner table. This vengeful slaying and devouring of an enemy evokes imagery of South Sea cannibals, transubstantiation and Christ Mythology, as well as the theme of DEVOURING and consuming which plagues EAT ME, DRINK ME, and will be addressed again on The High End of Low, not only in the song Devour.
That Titus was released just prior to Holy Wood gives it plausible entry into Manson's vast canon of inspiration; that it aids in demonstrating how much more Shakespeare can be than rock music, and that we teach the superiority of Shakespeare to our own children; and, that the theme of consumption was born in Manson's own opus long before EAT ME, DRINK ME, beg that this be interpreted as an important observation. "Celebritarian" is not the only sort of ideal originating in Holy Wood, but so too is EAT ME, DRINK ME's very pathos.



Originally posted by S.D.
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/catpeople.jpg

More to come...

-<me>-
01-26-2010, 07:28 AM
^^That picture is new to me too O_O!

Posts Feb 24 - May 19, 2009

Originally posted by Gen Appithy

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/Ph_poster.jpg

http://www.cirquetribune.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11438/normal_tori_says_goodbye_to_quidam.jpg
Originally posted by Saklas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMQq_1jddA


HSG


Saklas
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f388/Celebritarian/nktrans13.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f388/Celebritarian/21-1.jpg

Jeez, that's an exact copy of the M's. It seems she has no shame in what she takes as 'inspiration' from others sometimes. Didnt she also use the 'TV Crucifix' a couple years ago?
Thanks for the information too Simonist. The Nobodies video is one I could watch over and over. Seems very fitting that Manson turned it round so the children are the ones devouring the adults too.


Triz Darmon
pic from graphic novel "Joker" and Manson 2008 and 2007 yearlooks like artist was inspired by manson photos then he start to draw this
http://static.diary.ru/userdir/9/2/3/0/92300/38518753.jpg


NecroDaemon
This Cher album:
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/64a55cce35bf46dfcdea965acd42fdf0/18052.jpg
Reminds me of this:
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e360/VHsRunninwithdevil/MarilynManson/longhardroad01.jpg


Skelettfejset

the outfit Manson wears here:
http://www.deadstar.net/PHOTOS/SLC/PHOTOS/BIG/02.jpg

Is very similar to the one Alice Cooper wears here:

http://www.crazyalice.com/AC69Toronto2.JPG



Still more...

S.D.
02-28-2010, 01:33 PM
From Peter Lorre:-


speed;60922']http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7140/comam.jpg

In Fritz Lang's M, Peter Lorre plays Hans Beckert, a serial killer and pedophile who kidnaps children, thus raping them of their innocence. Beckert sells balloons to small children before murdering them, and in the scene following the purchase of the balloon, We see a balloon ensnared in the telephone lines, floating away much in the same manner Manson does in Coma Black

M and Fritz Lang's work are very definite influences on Manson's output, but I'm not sure the balloons in the film are relative to the ones used on The High End Of Low tour, the source for those is a little more basic I think.
Black balloons traditionally symbolise death, and Manson was probably using them in the same context as he did in the Man That You Fear video, as demonstrated below:-


http://providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./ManFear1.jpg



http://providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./ManFear2.jpg



http://providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./ManFear3.jpg



In the video, the balloons are left outside Manson's trailer. Norsefire and I were discussing this and came to the conlusion it's a harbinger, Manson has been marked for death and ostracised from the "community", which is basically what Man That You Fear is about.

Also, as images two and three show, the little girl holds a bunch of black balloons as the procession walks through the Desert, or "Death Valley", if you will. Manson has identified with the persona of a little girl or a child on numerous occasions, from Portrait Of An American Family (during Get Your Gunn - "Want me to save the world, I'm just a little girl") right through to EAT ME, DRINK ME (Manson as 'The Star - "feeling like a child" etc.), so perhaps a more prudent reading would be that his release of the black balloons on stage is him relinquishing this part of his personality, releasing the burden in isolation:-


http://providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./MansonBalloons.jpg

Shangri-LIE
02-28-2010, 05:25 PM
http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/tarot_emperor.jpghttp://www.leftfieldcinema.com/files/images/begotten1.jpg

Marilyn Manson as the Emperor. The Emperor is connected to Key 13, Death, through its cross sum (the sum of the digits). "Dear God, your sky is as blue as a gunshot wound. Dear God, if you were alive, you know we'd kill you." On an additional note, coincidentally, 13 is the number of students that were killed in the Columbine massacre.

The Second picture is taken from the film "Begotten". The scene is entitled "God killing himself." The director of the movie itself E. Elias Merhige also helped to direct the video for Cryptorchid. It depicts "God" disemboweling himself, when Mother Earth impregnates herself with his semen and travels to a desolate, baron region and leaves her children to their own methods of survival in her absense.

"Dress me up and take me here. Dress me up and make me your dying God."

http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/Jj_vCNevsfY/default.jpghttp://img.youtube.com/vi/Rthl_O4_G2o/3.jpg

The Death Parade

The Mary Whore is at the Bed;

http://www.clips-music.com/marilyn-manson/images/manson-man-that-you-fear.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/2726519738_9841f644aa.jpg

Anima XI
02-28-2010, 05:47 PM
Do I have to do everything for you?
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2459/p90bc0.jpg

Has he come to test me?
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8719/70515141yu0.jpg


is sort of similar to

http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/nk_degenerate_minidita.jpg

The two below seem similar to each other too:

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8831/11309813fg7.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/09/15/article-1213595-067347C4000005DC-6_468x703.jpg

Alexandra
10-06-2010, 10:32 AM
http://i54.tinypic.com/25jcz1s.gif
The Double Cross

http://i56.tinypic.com/2nanq04.png
The Jagiellonian dynasty's coat of arms

The Jagiellonians were Poland's one of the two most powerful and famed royal dynasties in its entire history.
Now don't get me wrong; I first learned about the country's dynasties back in first grades of school and the reason why I wasn't familiar with this image is simply because none of my old History textbooks included images of the royal dynasties' coats of arms.

I'm not being entirely serious about this parallel, though. Just a small, hopefully jaw dropping find. ;)

ShelfLife
10-06-2010, 01:39 PM
^^ Well, Manson is at least one-quarter Polish, so you might have something there!

Norsefire
10-17-2010, 07:07 AM
I watched The Omen and The Night Porter again this weekend, and these two things stood out for me. I'm not saying they are solid comparisons, but they reminded me of Manson.

The Omen - Marilyn Manson
http://www.celebritarian.co.uk/omen_theol.jpg

I think the Night Porter is the more interesting comparison -

The Night Porter - The Grotesk Burlesk Masked Drummers
http://www.celebritarian.co.uk/masked_np_gb.jpg

Lauren
12-19-2010, 04:27 PM
http://i52.tinypic.com/jj09x3.jpg
By Deborah Turbeville

Compared to
http://i52.tinypic.com/119xf93.jpg

S.D.
12-19-2010, 07:29 PM
Thank you again Lauren!

I mentioned Home Alone in a post on Babalon earlier this evening. This sprang to mind:-


http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp112/providermodule/Analysis/homealone.png

http://www.providermodule.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=2573&fullsize=1http://www.providermodule.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/TGAOG_Promotional_98.jpg


How fucking cool is that! I refuse to believe that isn't what Manson was referencing, given he was in a movie with Macaulay during the making of The Golden Age Of Grotesque.

Jakob Synn
05-15-2011, 03:39 AM
I always wondered what Manson himself would think when presented with all these photos of himself and his band that have been taken over the years that have resembled his own. I really want to hear his thoughts on Visual Parallels. <--- Remember that Provider fans, when they interview Manson or someone close to Manson next. Let's find out about visuals.

S.D.
01-23-2012, 04:46 AM
Check out this parallel between Michael Jackson's video for, 'Leave me Alone' and Manson's own video for Dope Hat. I find it hard to believe it wasn't a direct inspiration.

I think Norsefire sent me this with the same intent once, because he is gay for Michael Jackson.

This isn't really an analytical Visual Parallel, there's no theory here, I just had two pictures of Manson from ten years apart and found it striking how similar he looked in them both.


http://www.providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./vp_as.jpg http://www.providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./vp_emdm.jpg


Does anyone else ever notice things like that? If so, please share, I find that sort of thing really interesting.

Mugwump
08-23-2012, 07:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=Nb8mtnWKb2U

callesnegras
08-31-2012, 03:54 PM
What about this one guys?
I'm suprised no one has posted it before!

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4641/mbju.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/mbju.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

The Empirical Guy
08-31-2012, 06:28 PM
Epic first post... epic lurker as well!

arkahno
08-31-2012, 06:48 PM
What about this one guys?
I'm suprised no one has posted it before!

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4641/mbju.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/mbju.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

I posted that in babalon

callesnegras
09-03-2012, 09:17 AM
Epic first post... epic lurker as well!

Thanks man!

callesnegras
09-03-2012, 09:21 AM
I posted that in babalon

Opps!

Didn't know

MissZombilicious
12-30-2012, 04:45 AM
I love this thread! It's interesting that Manson basically didn't invent anything of the visuals he's using, he is re-inventing things. A but like a collage or a patchwork. I had a discussion with someone about this a few years back and that person got really mad at me for saying that Manson wasn't inventive. No artist can be totally original, you are always influenced by previous works, musically and visually.

There is another visual parallel that no one has taken up yet, maybe it's too obvious. I am convinced that Manson's use of a contact-lense is a homage to David Bowie.

Norsefire
12-30-2012, 10:38 AM
Well not everything is to say MM took it from something else, it is possible for people just come up with the same ideas.

I've seen examples of logo's that are identical but the designers were in different countries and had different influences etc but still arrived at exactly the same logo. It was amazing stuff, some had the same icons and typeface and that's crazy!

So there's probably a good mix of stuff Manson has been influenced by and created his own versions and also stuff he doesn't even know about, yet others can see similarities in.

I always find it interesting as well to see other people who may have been inspired by Marilyn Manson.

MissZombilicious
12-31-2012, 04:58 PM
Well not everything is to say MM took it from something else, it is possible for people just come up with the same ideas.

I've seen examples of logo's that are identical but the designers were in different countries and had different influences etc but still arrived at exactly the same logo. It was amazing stuff, some had the same icons and typeface and that's crazy!

So there's probably a good mix of stuff Manson has been influenced by and created his own versions and also stuff he doesn't even know about, yet others can see similarities in.

I always find it interesting as well to see other people who may have been inspired by Marilyn Manson.

There is no way that an artist can make art without referring to other art. You are either against or for the art before you. There is basically no way that you can start from scratch. It happens in every art-genre, from literature to music.

I didn't put any judgement in my observation. I think it's great to see where Manson (and other artists) gets his inspiration from. And yes, he has borrowed a lot of things from Bauhaus and David Bowie's visual images. I think what he did with it is awesome. You can merge things, you can change things, you can give things another meaning. But you have still taken these things from somewhere in the first place. Marilyn Manson is really good at being inspired by other people's art and works and putting his own spin on it.

By the way, I don't doubt that people can come up with the same things in totally different places of the world. Coincidence. This sounded like you wanted to defend Manson so I got a bit confused here. lol. You didn't want to say that Manson has come up with things and that it's a coincidence that it fits with other people's work, right? I agree with you, Manson probably didn't mean half of the things we are interpreting and finding. Which is actually quite cool because it gives different meanings than he had intended. One person once said that an artist's work isn't in the hands of the artist anymore the moment someone else is looking at it, reading it, listening to it.

I wish Manson would inspire other artists than Lady Gaga and Rhianna :P

Norsefire
12-31-2012, 06:51 PM
I wasn't defending Manson I was just more replying to what you said about this thread showing that Manson didn't invent anything of his own visuals. Because while it's clear where Manson got ideas for some stuff in the comparisons posted, other bits posted are sometimes just wacky/fun and most likely nothing to do with how Manson got his ideas.
So my reply was directed to that, I think it's a mixed thread and doesn't always mean each posted comparison means MM knew about it before he did his thing.

I agree with your post above.

kalim123
01-04-2013, 11:52 AM
I wish Manson would inspire other artists than Lady Gaga and Rhianna :P

In what way did he inspire Rihanna?

AssetReign
01-04-2013, 12:19 PM
^ "Disturbia" video.

The Empirical Guy
01-04-2013, 06:46 PM
^ Are you sure it wasn't the "Running To The Edge Of The World" video?

Too soon?

blue angel
06-23-2013, 12:23 AM
I think Norsefire sent me this with the same intent once, because he is gay for Michael Jackson.

This isn't really an analytical Visual Parallel, there's no theory here, I just had two pictures of Manson from ten years apart and found it striking how similar he looked in them both.


http://www.providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./vp_as.jpg http://www.providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./vp_emdm.jpg


Does anyone else ever notice things like that? If so, please share, I find that sort of thing really interesting.

This is very interesting. He looks exact.

S.D.
09-24-2013, 07:07 AM
Happy Birthday, Mister Superstar.


http://www.providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./monroe_stripes.jpg http://www.providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./manson_stripes.jpg

Alexandra
01-13-2014, 09:10 PM
Hello. I apologize for popping in out of the blue after a long hiatus only to post in the Visual Parallels, but that's just how I am :)

While browsing sunglasses, I came across a pair that was described as Born Losers Style Sunglasses, which was a 1967 film I have yet to see:
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy149/photobutcher/il_570xN466555480_9aiq_zpsd1aa4c29.jpg

Born Loser:
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy149/photobutcher/bornlosers2_zps42b6023a.jpg

Born Villain:
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy149/photobutcher/BELVEDERERED-BRINGS-THE-BOX-TO-LA-Marilyn-Manson-Jon-Hamm1_zps010bc8ee.jpg

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Manson been photographed wearing similar sunglasses, only white? The only photograph I found was of him wearing a pair of these Freeway 405 sunglasses, however they're slightly different.

S.D.
01-14-2014, 09:44 AM
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Manson been photographed wearing similar sunglasses, only white?
Indeed.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUOCkVQOh0


Nice work, and wilkommen back.

Cringeon
03-21-2014, 04:49 AM
I'm certain this has come up before, but couldn't find it anywhere. Some inspiration for the original Phantasmagoria concept poster. Thanks to Señor Pinche (http://www.providermodule.com/forum/member.php/575-Se%C3%B1or-Pinche) for the find!

550

Norsefire
03-21-2014, 09:07 AM
I don't think I've ever seen that comparison before, I think I would have remembered.
It's a fucking good one though!

The Wax Gentleman
03-22-2014, 09:21 PM
Fun fact: Cassie wears them sunglasses from time to time on Skins:
http://i.imgur.com/gRlvPbu.png

yuzukelly
03-28-2014, 05:20 AM
http://www.providermodule.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_TGAOG_Candid_17~0.jpg
https://31.media.tumblr.com/505504843dd0622f941e620c2cac6625/tumblr_n2deduo0dP1rp1d1qo1_500.png

MisanthroPope
03-29-2014, 08:32 AM
From Phantom of the Paradise....

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/dvdreviews48/phantom_of_the_paradise_blu-ray/large/large_phantom_paradise_blu-ray4.jpg

BlueEyeLens
03-31-2014, 03:43 PM
And let's not forget...this guy-
http://iheartthemaninthemoon.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/kurt1.jpg

yuzukelly
06-24-2014, 03:21 PM
http://www.providermodule.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_MA_Promotional_56.jpg

http://ohtori.nu/gallery/var/resizes/Movie/Movie_Screenshots/Nude_Drawing_Juris_Duel/Movie_Screen_0580.jpg?m=1380886335

Anthy Himemiya from the Adolescence of Utena movie.

She has a love-wound in her chest.

arkahno
07-12-2014, 09:54 AM
Already well known, but it worth the post:

https://38.media.tumblr.com/aec9a9039d8799e00d9115268c454cfd/tumblr_n7ytnwfpEF1s0pf4wo1_500.jpg
https://33.media.tumblr.com/9cb24614d65bb0b3e4c9af74a4067349/tumblr_n7ytnwfpEF1s0pf4wo2_500.jpg

https://33.media.tumblr.com/6770685be3359d8ccbf00fa5074e7ab4/tumblr_n7ytnwfpEF1s0pf4wo3_500.jpg
https://31.media.tumblr.com/517a019587e737c01370a3899c39f3cc/tumblr_n7ytnwfpEF1s0pf4wo4_500.jpg

https://38.media.tumblr.com/78dcac6ecdd65df170ca30ec698f1f78/tumblr_n7ytnwfpEF1s0pf4wo5_500.jpg
https://38.media.tumblr.com/531c1bf7fb13ba63050719b57311bbce/tumblr_n7ytnwfpEF1s0pf4wo6_400.jpg

https://31.media.tumblr.com/f0a47428d511b9f2b9338f123796d06e/tumblr_n7ytnwfpEF1s0pf4wo7_500.jpg
https://38.media.tumblr.com/6f3294ea25566c16c037d2ea8a60c4c0/tumblr_n7ytnwfpEF1s0pf4wo8_500.jpg

https://31.media.tumblr.com/c4f0cfa4f9bf6ff371984183be994f8d/tumblr_n7ytnwfpEF1s0pf4wo9_500.jpg
https://38.media.tumblr.com/8fcdc7efb498a03dfe375bf6b2705732/tumblr_n7ytnwfpEF1s0pf4wo10_500.jpg

Alejandro Jodorowsky references in Marilyn Mansons work

HG131
01-04-2015, 10:13 PM
There is no way that an artist can make art without referring to other art. You are either against or for the art before you. There is basically no way that you can start from scratch. It happens in every art-genre, from literature to music.

I didn't put any judgement in my observation. I think it's great to see where Manson (and other artists) gets his inspiration from. And yes, he has borrowed a lot of things from Bauhaus and David Bowie's visual images. I think what he did with it is awesome. You can merge things, you can change things, you can give things another meaning. But you have still taken these things from somewhere in the first place. Marilyn Manson is really good at being inspired by other people's art and works and putting his own spin on it.

By the way, I don't doubt that people can come up with the same things in totally different places of the world. Coincidence. This sounded like you wanted to defend Manson so I got a bit confused here. lol. You didn't want to say that Manson has come up with things and that it's a coincidence that it fits with other people's work, right? I agree with you, Manson probably didn't mean half of the things we are interpreting and finding. Which is actually quite cool because it gives different meanings than he had intended. One person once said that an artist's work isn't in the hands of the artist anymore the moment someone else is looking at it, reading it, listening to it.

I wish Manson would inspire other artists than Lady Gaga and Rhianna :P

He has. It's called the visuals of just about every metalcore band. He really needs to give Chris Motionless a kick to the gonads.

S.D.
03-15-2015, 05:56 AM
http://www.providermodule.com/Administrators/S.D./mcveigh_manson.jpg

Marilyn Manson and Timothy McVeigh in adolescence. I'm adding this not just because of the physical similarities, but because both men were born within a year of each other, had similar childhoods, and to reflect Manson's oft-repeated comment that there's a fine line between serial murder and art. Had things been different for him, he could have been McVeigh.
I think aspects of Holy Wood, and We're From America fit very well with the McVeigh story also.

It's not a direct link really, given that Manson was discussing violence in general, but McVeigh was mentioned in his 1999 essay, Columbine: Whose Fault Is It? (http://www.providermodule.com/media/features.php?v=f/rs_columbine)
I guess with that in mind, perhaps there was a subconscious influence when Manson was penning lyrics such as "I'm sorry you never checked the bag in my head for a bomb and my halo was a needle hole" or "We write our prayers on a little bomb, kiss it on the face and send it to god".

McVeigh was a decorated soldier in the Gulf War, and a self-confessed gun obsessive for his entire life. He became captivated with cult activity such as the Waco massacre, was eventually disenfranchised with the Government, and was considered America's most prolific terrorist prior to 9.11. The Oklahoma bombing took place in the interim between Portrait Of An American Family and Smells Like Children, so I imagine Manson was on the road at the time it occurred. 168 people were killed, many of whom were children. The next comparable event to receive such immense media coverage concerning an act of extreme violence, was Columbine High School.

McVeigh was executed in June 2001, during the Guns, God & Government tour, aged 33.

TheCourt
03-29-2015, 10:00 PM
http://www.mansonwiki.com/w/images/b/b3/B4.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a9lah_mgig

Visual comparison of Antichrist Superstar shirt and imagery from U2's Zoo TV visuals for The Fly. Believe shows up at 2:27, with lie appearing in the middle at 2:29. Minor similarities to Marilyn Manson is ETC. at 1:37, and "Celebrity is a job" and "Death is a career move" from 2:38 to 2:42 can be seen as fitting with Celebritarian themes.

HG131
08-03-2015, 08:56 AM
Something I noticed while watching The Cinema Snob's review of the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band movie.

http://i.imgur.com/EQQDO7K.jpg

Previously, I'd noticed the massive parallels between Mechanical Animals and the musical film The Apple thanks to another video of his,

kk_15
05-19-2016, 01:39 PM
The villain character Sgt. Barnes from the 1987 Vietnam war film Platoon:

https://imgur.com/a/HK7Ha

Manson's frequent use of half-skull design makeup during 2015's tour:

https://imgur.com/LrOzU5t

I thought that the similarity was too strong not to mention.

Observe that Barnes' face bears a scar on his right side, as Manson effectively shares in the above photo. Given the man is a fan of Vietnam films (Apocalypse Now) etc, I can't doubt that this may be one of many homages to cinema yet again.

S.D.
05-20-2016, 01:34 PM
He's never really going to relinquish that Vietnam obsession, eh? A good job too, given how significant it was both to his upbringing and the structure of American culture and politics to the present. Much is made of 9/11 and the resultant invasion of Iraq, but America's activities during the second world war and the likely illegal 'staging' of certain events to justify military intervention in Vietnam are somewhat overlooked in modern discourse of the superpowers. Manson clearly still applies a 'Lest We Forget' maxim to those conflicts.

Shangri-LIE
05-24-2016, 03:30 AM
Imutation; The fine line between emulation and imitation. *New words. All words are made up.

kk_15
05-24-2016, 04:52 AM
I have begun watching a lot more professional footage of 2012's "Twins of Evil" tour whereby I noticed a theatric involving Manson wearing what appears to be a "ribcage mask" (potentially designed by Chris Sutton along with the "skull mask") typically during performances of "No Reflection" or "Sweet Dreams".

Here is a photo of Manson wearing it:
https://i.imgur.com/ED3d06C.jpg

Coincidentally, I have been re-watching films from the Alien franchise. Essentially one of the many life-stages which represent the villain or "Xenomorph" is the "Facehugger" as linked to here:
https://i.imgur.com/Qju4pNu.jpg

The aforementioned creature (attached to the victims face on the right of above photo) is known to violently capture it's victims through the use of it's hand-crab like structure and subsequently subdue them before implanting an embryo (which develops into the next life-stage) inside their chest cavity.

Upon learning that the tour has been quoted by Manson to be loosely "based around films with a dark-future theme" it would come as a surprise if the man himself was not already a fan or was familiar with the Alien franchise which relates to my next parallel.

Although not visual per say I find it curious how in the song "Track 99" from Antichrist Superstar the lyrics read:
"Something has grown in my chest, I have seen it, it is hard and cold... It's been dormant for many years"

Call it coincidence if you like but I feel that Manson may have been inspired to portray his thrust into infamy or development from "Worm to Disintegrator" through more than just the variously cited Biblical references and also as expected from film, to make more sense - firstly being smothered and subdued by the "Facehugger" which in relation to Manson's transformation both critically and personally could represent the beginnings of the Worm or youth to secondly being destroyed by one's self by the body being used as a host to the "Chestburster", in relation to Manson's transformation again could represent the growth into the Hierophant or Disintegrator, the experienced Alien you practically witness Manson as now.
Parallels could be made with the song "Little Horn" and it's biblical imagery - in this case being replaced by the above life cycle.

Assuming that the mask is directly related to the "Facehugger" one could argue that such a transformation is indefinitely fatal (all puns intended).

Although Manson's "ribcage mask" is potentially less a homage to these films and character arc because literally speaking it could appear similar through coincidence only, I still believe it is worth noting as no other theory has been offered as to why Manson only brought in this theatric as of late. Apart from the "skull mask" or "Trismegestus (triple-head) mask" my research concludes this facet of the performance has yet to be investigated.

Alternatively one could suggest that the Triptych (the series of albums Manson wrote from '96 to '00) apart from sharing a storyline are also made reference to on this tour exclusively through wearing masks. An example of this would be how the "skull mask" represents the Holy Wood era through complimenting motifs of death and mortality along with the positioning of songs in the setlist and continuing forward into the remaining "acts" of the show.

I sincerely hope that my parallel makes sense to somebody in more than just the obvious photo comparative style.

If all else fails you could assume that Manson simply plucked the idea from an episode of "Power Rangers" where "Abara Kamen", the eighth of "Black Cross Commander-in-Chief's Masked Warriors" who uses his ability "to raise the dead, reviving dead bodies and controlling their will like puppets to do whatever he wants them to do".
https://i.imgur.com/qH2OZ2N.jpg

On the contrary this would make for a more clear link between Manson and his ex-girlfriend Evan Rachel Wood on the occasions Manson decided to use the "ribcage mask" during "No Reflection" on the same occasions the corpse prop was brought out on stage along with him, hence representing his anger fuelled fantasy which can be left to the imagination upon making use of the characters ability from the "Power Rangers".

Thank you.

Two Faced Egg (23)
05-24-2016, 03:27 PM
I have begun watching a lot more professional footage of 2012's "Twins of Evil" tour whereby I noticed a theatric involving Manson wearing what appears to be a "ribcage mask" (potentially designed by Chris Sutton along with the "skull mask") typically during performances of "No Reflection" or "Sweet Dreams".

Here is a photo of Manson wearing it:
https://i.imgur.com/ED3d06C.jpg

Coincidentally, I have been re-watching films from the Alien franchise. Essentially one of the many life-stages which represent the villain or "Xenomorph" is the "Facehugger" as linked to here:
https://i.imgur.com/Qju4pNu.jpg

The aforementioned creature (attached to the victims face on the right of above photo) is known to violently capture it's victims through the use of it's hand-crab like structure and subsequently subdue them before implanting an embryo (which develops into the next life-stage) inside their chest cavity.

Upon learning that the tour has been quoted by Manson to be loosely "based around films with a dark-future theme" it would come as a surprise if the man himself was not already a fan or was familiar with the Alien franchise which relates to my next parallel.

Although not visual per say I find it curious how in the song "Track 99" from Antichrist Superstar the lyrics read:
"Something has grown in my chest, I have seen it, it is hard and cold... It's been dormant for many years"

Call it coincidence if you like but I feel that Manson may have been inspired to portray his thrust into infamy or development from "Worm to Disintegrator" through more than just the variously cited Biblical references and also as expected from film, to make more sense - firstly being smothered and subdued by the "Facehugger" which in relation to Manson's transformation both critically and personally could represent the beginnings of the Worm or youth to secondly being destroyed by one's self by the body being used as a host to the "Chestburster", in relation to Manson's transformation again could represent the growth into the Hierophant or Disintegrator, the experienced Alien you practically witness Manson as now.
Parallels could be made with the song "Little Horn" and it's biblical imagery - in this case being replaced by the above life cycle.

Assuming that the mask is directly related to the "Facehugger" one could argue that such a transformation is indefinitely fatal (all puns intended).

Although Manson's "ribcage mask" is potentially less a homage to these films and character arc because literally speaking it could appear similar through coincidence only, I still believe it is worth noting as no other theory has been offered as to why Manson only brought in this theatric as of late. Apart from the "skull mask" or "Trismegestus (triple-head) mask" my research concludes this facet of the performance has yet to be investigated.

Alternatively one could suggest that the Triptych (the series of albums Manson wrote from '96 to '00) apart from sharing a storyline are also made reference to on this tour exclusively through wearing masks. An example of this would be how the "skull mask" represents the Holy Wood era through complimenting motifs of death and mortality along with the positioning of songs in the setlist and continuing forward into the remaining "acts" of the show.

I sincerely hope that my parallel makes sense to somebody in more than just the obvious photo comparative style.

If all else fails you could assume that Manson simply plucked the idea from an episode of "Power Rangers" where "Abara Kamen", the eighth of "Black Cross Commander-in-Chief's Masked Warriors" who uses his ability "to raise the dead, reviving dead bodies and controlling their will like puppets to do whatever he wants them to do".
https://i.imgur.com/qH2OZ2N.jpg

On the contrary this would make for a more clear link between Manson and his ex-girlfriend Evan Rachel Wood on the occasions Manson decided to use the "ribcage mask" during "No Reflection" on the same occasions the corpse prop was brought out on stage along with him, hence representing his anger fuelled fantasy which can be left to the imagination upon making use of the characters ability from the "Power Rangers".

Thank you.
LoL'Ss KK_15 , You are wild. Alien is one of my all time favorite science fiction films and all i got to contribute to Your theory is that it was directed by Ridley Scott !! Director of "Blade Runner" ! That one We know Mr.Manson is a fan of & it's one i never tire from mentioning as I love it and the writer Philip K Dick is my all time favorite : ) Cheers Mother FuCker

Shangri-LIE
05-25-2016, 03:16 AM
Marilyn Manson is whatever you want him to be.

Two Faced Egg (23)
05-25-2016, 05:53 PM
Marilyn Manson is whatever you want him to be.

aawww I just Luv a good miss story : )

Mok
05-28-2016, 05:32 AM
Does anyone else immediately think of The Portrait of Dorian Gray whenever you see this?

http://www.providermodule.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/2014-promotional-06.jpg

There's really no definite version of the portrait, but I read the book in High School and have since thought of that whenever I see this picture.

Halo Infinity
02-05-2017, 12:40 AM
Perhaps this thread can also include audible parallels?

I thought of making an audible parallels thread, but it's probably far more convenient to just keep it here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCmiHYaGOtw

Anyway, the end of Pretty As A ($) reminded me of this moment The Beautiful People got messed up live, at around 2:25-45. It makes me wonder if they had that exact moment in mind, especially in good fun as they were reminiscing upon The High End of Low being recorded upon Twiggy's return since Holy Wood.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zV2lUj6_Tk

And monkey/ape/primate references aside, I also played Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy Kong's Quest a lot in my childhood and have noticed that some parts of Cryptorchid actually remind me of The Flying Krock song.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj_vCNevsfY

It would be quite the treat to hear Cryptorchid remixed/mashed up with it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-hm-garLg

Halo Infinity
02-12-2017, 09:32 PM
I'm sure that this obviously just had to have been already mentioned numerous times already.

Anyway, I was just recently reminded yet again about the way Marilyn Manson's hair was positioned on the album cover of Mechanical Animals and this particular mugshot of Charles Manson.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51AO4D36yAL.jpg

http://www.mugshots.org/criminals/charles-manson.jpg

Shangri-LIE
02-13-2017, 05:36 AM
http://www.doodlerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/643/Image1003.jpg

^ Photograph taken from around 6 B.C.E.

The same alpha monkey is in the "Disposable Teens" music video.

http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/nk_disposable_teens_the_simian_last_supper.jpg

Monkey's are and have always been adored by Manson as well as used in his conceptual works of arts. He also owned a taxidermied monkey that he keeps on his living room table near his laptop. But yeah, I find these two comparisons to be pretty interesting.

Halo Infinity
03-02-2017, 04:11 PM
http://www.mansonwiki.com/w/images/b/bf/Twitter-2017-01-16-3.jpg

https://twitter.com/marilynmanson/status/820992040930398208

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/513VQCdgYqL.jpg

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41nb%2BckTW5L.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_of_a_Down_(album)

Marsmind
06-17-2017, 10:27 PM
What's with the blue fingers? He had blue paint on his fingers in the Third day video, on stage at several 2015 2016 shows and now it's in the new promo photo. Made me wonder if he was painting between songs backstage. The new promo photo reminds me of The Unembodied Self painting.
http://providermodule.com/news/uploads/toeviplitho.jpg
http://www.providermodule.com/news/uploads/hud-promo-1.jpg

Nemoris Inferioris
07-30-2017, 12:54 AM
Marilyn Manson alluding to the famous "Titus Andronicus" play by William Shakespeare, in the opening performances for the Heaven Upside Down Tour. The photo is from the Film Adaptation of the Play.

https://gifyu.com/images/Alan-Titus.pnghttps://gifyu.com/images/IMG_20170730_030051_602.jpg

The Throne (https://gifyu.com/images/e8om1xtp00bz.png)

Hazekiah
07-30-2017, 01:39 AM
Marilyn Manson alluding to the famous "Titus Andronicus" play by William Shakespeare, in the opening performances for the Heaven Upside Down Tour. The photo is from the Film Adaptation of the Play.

https://gifyu.com/images/Alan-Titus.pnghttps://gifyu.com/images/IMG_20170730_030051_602.jpg

The Throne (https://gifyu.com/images/e8om1xtp00bz.png)



*Thanks to Dirge Infernal for sharing this.

It's Dirge Inferno, lol. And wasn't it actually Ain't? Idk, I missed that chat.

Anyway, REGARDLESS...yeah, Manson's been a big fan of Julie Taymor for ages so Titus is likely the most direct inspiration here. Still needz moar wolf's maw but w/e.

That said, ENNAME nailed this DAYS ago in the tour subforum:

http://www.providermodule.com/forum/showthread.php/8380-002-JUL-21-2017-Metal-Hammer-Festival-Katowice-Poland?p=216812&viewfull=1#post216812

ReversedHate
07-30-2017, 04:05 AM
Marilyn Manson alluding to the famous "Titus Andronicus" play by William Shakespeare, in the opening performances for the Heaven Upside Down Tour. The photo is from the Film Adaptation of the Play.

Nice find

Nemoris Inferioris
07-30-2017, 06:00 AM
It's Dirge Inferno, lol. And wasn't it actually Ain't? Idk, I missed that chat.

Anyway, REGARDLESS...yeah, Manson's been a big fan of Julie Taymor for ages so Titus is likely the most direct inspiration here. Still needz moar wolf's maw but w/e.

That said, ENNAME nailed this DAYS ago in the tour subforum:

http://www.providermodule.com/forum/showthread.php/8380-002-JUL-21-2017-Metal-Hammer-Festival-Katowice-Poland?p=216812&viewfull=1#post216812

I fixed it

And this proves to a certain someone that this is, in fact, a Throne.

YoureAlreadyHere
07-30-2017, 08:33 AM
So Manson is claiming Saturninus' character? uh, hmm... I see how it fits, what with all the senseless murder

I was hoping the big chair was for his story-weaving. ahahah ALRIGHT, CHILDREN! GATHER ROUND AND FIND A SPOT ON THE READING CARPET.
=P

Procrastinator
10-11-2017, 08:45 AM
I probably spent too much time on this but the shadow on the right hand side of Manson's face really reminds me of the shock symbol. Obviously not identical as the brow bone is at a completely different angle compared to the symbol but the shape with 4 main endpoints is still there, whether intentional or not.

http://i.imgur.com/Jx5HUil.jpg


(https://imgur.com/Jx5HUil)

Nemoris Inferioris
10-12-2017, 06:07 AM
I guarantee that was not intentional.

NapalmHeart
10-13-2017, 06:13 AM
I guarantee that was not intentional.

Most likely not intended, but also the first thing I saw. Well, actually I just saw the S(S) rune, but still interesting that I'm not the only one seeing this.

Procrastinator
02-24-2018, 04:55 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lzzrYPl.jpg

Rihanna on the cover of W Magazine, March 2017. I just randomly came across the image while googling "kabuki makeup". When I put Manson's photo next to her cover the top right hand corner quote "The World's wildest style icon" kinda makes me smirk under my umbrealla :P

Enname
02-24-2018, 08:25 PM
Rihanna on the cover of W Magazine, March 2017. I just randomly came across the image while googling "kabuki makeup". When I put Manson's photo next to her cover the top right hand corner quote "The World's wildest style icon" kinda makes me smirk under my umbrealla :P

Bad girl indeed.:P

Nemoris Inferioris
05-29-2018, 09:30 AM
Saw this CD at a Target today, reminded me of something...

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81DhpYQskaL._SL1500_.jpg

S.D.
05-29-2018, 01:37 PM
That is spot on, thank you for sharing.

Added Kill4Me bonus also.

Enname
05-29-2018, 05:40 PM
All roads lead to Bowie.

yuzukelly
10-31-2018, 05:37 PM
https://i.imgur.com/BNNK5F6.png

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2TkfE2B_Ca4/WFk-veBEOFI/AAAAAAAABXY/nvse05LhPm0TlQ_W1e-EXhnzn0WtLo6lwCLcB/s1600/Howl.jpg

Howl, Calcifer, it's me, Sophie! I know how to help you now...find me in the future!

S.D.
11-23-2018, 04:40 AM
I know both The Joker and The Man Who Laughs have been thrown up for comparison before, but this new shot refreshed it for me:-


https://i.imgur.com/qirftEU.png

Enname
11-24-2018, 03:47 AM
The sort of mobster dapper suit he has going in the shoot echoes The Joker as well.