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Norsefire
02-04-2014, 09:37 AM
Friday June 27 2014
Park Live
Venue:
Location: Moscow, Russia

http://parklive.pro/



Members Attending:

Norsefire
02-04-2014, 11:36 AM
MM has confirmed on his tour page and FB page, he will be performing there on June 27.

Whisky And Speed
06-02-2014, 05:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCoPrJgAqYI

Cringeon
06-26-2014, 09:00 AM
24 hours to go! Really looking forward to the start of something new

kk_15
06-26-2014, 10:24 AM
His "big suprise" (no pun intended) could be a performance of POAF interluded with one or two new album tracks... judging by what he's been saying and it will be 20 years in July since publishing music officially.

Sawastian
06-26-2014, 03:35 PM
Will ROCK FM (http://www.rockfm.ru/) cover the show? they haven't live streaming, right?

AppleOfSodom
06-26-2014, 03:35 PM
His "big suprise" (no pun intended) could be a performance of POAF interluded with one or two new album tracks... judging by what he's been saying and it will be 20 years in July since publishing music officially.

wow 20 years didnt remember that, nice detail

TH15x15xMYxOMeGA
06-26-2014, 06:14 PM
I think this how has already happened because of the time change. Does anyone have any news/setlist/pictures?

Cringeon
06-26-2014, 06:50 PM
Show is at 11am PST tomorrow.

TH15x15xMYxOMeGA
06-26-2014, 08:02 PM
Oh wow. I got the date mixed up. Sorry! I thought today was the 27th for some reason. Silly me.

MechanicalWood
06-26-2014, 09:32 PM
I hope we get some good video shots and a good set list I am so excited :D

sp1nat
06-27-2014, 03:37 AM
I'll go)

AppleOfSodom
06-27-2014, 03:57 AM
Would be nice if you returned with some small review/insides

Cringeon
06-27-2014, 06:04 AM
Enjoy the show! Can't wait for the details to hit after the show.

MA-86
06-27-2014, 06:24 AM
Man, definitely let us know what it was like when it's finished!!!

NapalmHeart
06-27-2014, 06:32 AM
I'll go)

You're going? Dude, your YouTube videos are always awesome, are you filming the show? Please record at least the new tracks! :D

kk_15
06-27-2014, 06:35 AM
We'll probably see a setlist paper photographed an hour or two pre-show slipped by from one of the crew guys as usual!

Cringeon
06-27-2014, 06:47 AM
Don't post any leaks (and yes setlist before the show is technically a leak). The whole point is surprise.

303
06-27-2014, 07:03 AM
It's going to be exciting! I'm looking forward to hearing some reviews!

Now the new era can really begin, it's always the best of times.

kk_15
06-27-2014, 07:06 AM
Don't post any leaks (and yes setlist before the show is technically a leak). The whole point is surprise.

What about during/after 10pm GMT show start even though in the US your 8 or so hours behind?
Plus it's 3 hours ahead of the UK so it'll be 7pm for me!

Cringeon
06-27-2014, 07:07 AM
Any info shared from people at the show (in real time or after) is totally fine, but setlists or things going up before the band plays aren't going to be allowed if it spoils any surprise.

kk_15
06-27-2014, 09:53 AM
Any info shared from people at the show (in real time or after) is totally fine, but setlists or things going up before the band plays aren't going to be allowed if it spoils any surprise.

Fair enough, I'm so ready!

- - - Updated - - -

1 hour to go UK/EU and Russia...

Whisky And Speed
06-27-2014, 10:51 AM
Don't post any leaks (and yes setlist before the show is technically a leak). The whole point is surprise.

NAHH.

MA-86
06-27-2014, 10:53 AM
i would have thought the show would have ended by now?.. I hope everyone is still in AWE and thats the reason we are not hearing anything back yet:D

Cringeon
06-27-2014, 10:59 AM
The show starts in a min, please don't flood the thread with OT shit for now. Info will be posted here as it's made available.

kk_15
06-27-2014, 11:07 AM
@basetendencies is posting on Twitter, one minute ago, "show starting any minute..."

Whisky And Speed
06-27-2014, 11:12 AM
The show starts in a min, please don't flood the thread with OT shit for now. Info will be posted here as it's made available.


COMEON! this is a public show not a copyrighted material or a DVD or an album! we can't go there and we want to enjoy the info here. This is Manson's forum and we must find everything Manson here!.

Cringeon
06-27-2014, 11:13 AM
I was saying if a setlist was posted BEFORE the show - don't post it. Once the show happens it's all fair game. Don't be a cunt.

Show has been delayed due to a bomb threat. Will post updates as they are confirmed.

MA-86
06-27-2014, 11:13 AM
COMEON! this is a public show not a copyrighted material or a DVD or an album! we can't go there and we want to enjoy the info here. This is Manson's forum and we must find everything Manson here!.

I second this wholeheartedly!

kk_15
06-27-2014, 11:14 AM
You have to respect that some people here may joke around or post unconfirmed information without a source. I'm sure that Cringeon does not want you to feel like you can't share stuff on here right now but it would be appreciated if you waited a little longer so your claims for example are more valid like they'll have a video, photo, something evidential to go with it. :)

Whisky And Speed
06-27-2014, 11:17 AM
I was saying if a setlist was posted BEFORE the show - don't post it. Once the show happens it's all fair game. Don't be a cunt.

Show has been delayed due to a bomb threat. Will post updates as they are confirmed.

There are NO CUNTS here sweetheart. Cunts are the people who spoil your enjoyment and thrill whether it was with a bomb threat or throwing eggs or BANNING fans from posting anything to make other fans happy. We will see and know everything in a matter of minutes.

BlueEyeLens
06-27-2014, 11:18 AM
I was saying if a setlist was posted BEFORE the show - don't post it. Once the show happens it's all fair game. Don't be a cunt.

Show has been delayed due to a bomb threat. Will post updates as they are confirmed.

Please do NOT call her a cunt. You are violating your administrator rights sir. Thank you.

Zsa Zsa
06-27-2014, 11:20 AM
This thread sucks. Still no updates, if anyone is still here for news from the show.

kk_15
06-27-2014, 11:20 AM
Enough bullshit now, let's just wait it out to see what's happening over there in Moscow.
Can anyone confirm this alleged bomb threat?

Cringeon
06-27-2014, 11:22 AM
Yes, show is being delayed while there is a security sweep.

kk_15
06-27-2014, 11:25 AM
Damn, shit's got real, what a cruel start to the show, hope it doesn't affect the band's performance too much.

Just saw two photos retweeted by @basetendencies, one of the entire crowd space clear with a few security guys standing in it and another with police cars there. Fucking joke.

Shock Hazard
06-27-2014, 11:32 AM
Cunt can be a term of endearment, just don't put it where your mouth is (just saying in general).

VV_
06-27-2014, 11:33 AM
http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10349668_1500183786882601_1823147046_n.jpg


FUCKERS/

shrubberyhorizon
06-27-2014, 11:33 AM
"Setlist on stage is huge. about twenty tracks." - http://vk.com/marilynmanson

kk_15
06-27-2014, 11:36 AM
Ahh!

shrubberyhorizon
06-27-2014, 11:39 AM
"The crowd chanted: "MANSON" To stage mangled cars of special services, including two firefighters." http://vk.com/marilynmanson

crowded_morgue
06-27-2014, 11:40 AM
http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10349668_1500183786882601_1823147046_n.jpg


FUCKERS/

This is so epic.

kk_15
06-27-2014, 11:41 AM
How "Christian" of them to do this, I bet someone from one of the churches or protest groups faked this whole thing in an attempt to get the show delayed to the point so it's past the curfew!

It's been 45 minutes already!

shrubberyhorizon
06-27-2014, 11:52 AM
http://vk.com/marilynmanson?z=photo-1289_330997617%2Falbum-1289_00%2Frev

Mexxecutioner
06-27-2014, 11:52 AM
Seems like the show is cancelled! Russians in attendance post on facebook that they "are going home".

shrubberyhorizon
06-27-2014, 11:54 AM
link?

Mexxecutioner
06-27-2014, 11:55 AM
link?


second post! Perhaps you can translate what is said in the video and on the timeline.

https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/parklive?fref=ts

kk_15
06-27-2014, 11:55 AM
NO! Look at the photo of the empty stage and all the lighting setups and all! The drum set is there too!

shrubberyhorizon
06-27-2014, 11:58 AM
well, that might be them moving away from the stage for the check up (a chance they might of wrongly thought they were going home)

arkahno
06-27-2014, 11:58 AM
shit!

Iulian
06-27-2014, 11:58 AM
Well, they started really well this tour...

Wormboy96
06-27-2014, 11:59 AM
Cancelled, http://vk.com/marilynmanson?w=wall-1289_60339%2Fall

MA-86
06-27-2014, 11:59 AM
http://rockcult.ru/manson-park-live-concert-otmenen/

this page is being updated with latest happenings. From what I read, people have been asked to move away from the stage in order to check it for a bomb ut that can be seen in pics as well. And there seems to be a consensus between people that concert is being tried to get cancelled by the same religious leaders who got it cancelled on Sunday.. No one is saying anything about cancelling tonight's show so far though.

kk_15
06-27-2014, 12:00 PM
JUST SAW A PHOTO WITH THE WHOLE STAGE DARK BLUE WITH RED LIGHTS!

shrubberyhorizon
06-27-2014, 12:00 PM
okay it is cancelled "Holder announced the cancellation of the concert." http://vk.com/marilynmanson

Cringeon
06-27-2014, 12:00 PM
The cops shut it down, sorry to any fans who went.

Lord MeowMeow
06-27-2014, 12:00 PM
Oh you, Russia.

Mexxecutioner
06-27-2014, 12:00 PM
Confusing stuff! BTW who said that Manson`s Setlist looked like a long set? How should they know?

EDIT: Now it`s cancelled! Great for Manson to fly there for two concerts and playing none. Come to germany! You can play there every day. :)

MA-86
06-27-2014, 12:01 PM
Unbelievable... What a backwards country...

crowded_morgue
06-27-2014, 12:02 PM
dammit...

kk_15
06-27-2014, 12:04 PM
No! Seriously fucked off about this, excuse my language but I have literally been waiting all day for this checking for updates and now this happens.

Cringeon
06-27-2014, 12:05 PM
Hope everyone gets out of there asap and back on safe soil.

Shock Hazard
06-27-2014, 12:09 PM
As nice as it might be to live for 'now,' sometimes it's nice to keep tomorrow in mind when you can't always get what you want.

Indeed
06-27-2014, 12:10 PM
Are you fucking kidding me
fuck!1
fuck
fuck
fuck
we wait all fucking year for this shit! and these fucking russians cant handle a 45 year old performing a rock show.
hes goddamn 45. antichrist superstar was released fucking 18 years ago. why r u protesting now u twisted fucks

Whisky And Speed
06-27-2014, 12:10 PM
OH NO !. All what I hope for Manson right now is to get out safely out of this country.

arkahno
06-27-2014, 12:14 PM
this is pure shit.
fucking russian laws and government.

kk_15
06-27-2014, 12:16 PM
DO YOU LOVE YOUR GUNS, GOD, GOVERNMENT?

shrubberyhorizon
06-27-2014, 12:19 PM
http://vk.com/marilynmanson?z=photo-1289_331000223%2Fwall-1289_60438

Shock Hazard
06-27-2014, 12:20 PM
^I guess in that sense, things aren't much prettier in the other direction.

kk_15
06-27-2014, 12:22 PM
http://vk.com/marilynmanson?z=photo-1289_331000223%2Fwall-1289_60438

Was that the "big suprise"?

Whisky And Speed
06-27-2014, 12:24 PM
Get your gun

Mr superstar

personal jesus

tourniquet

this is the new shit

hate anthem

reflecting god

disposable teens

Mobscene and much more.

I'm sad cause it was going to be a hell of a performance with the songs I love. Now I'm going to listen to Hollywood and try to forget this bullshit while enjoying myself.

Shock Hazard
06-27-2014, 12:24 PM
https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-0/p200x200/10500312_570098999773310_8313853643998350315_n.jpg

Looks like he's finally moving up to 90 minutes, nice.

DecayingSinner
06-27-2014, 12:25 PM
Get Your Gunn and Mr. Superstar haven't been played in a long time.

MA-86
06-27-2014, 12:28 PM
I would regard the info of that torn piece of paper with a BIG grain of salt... In an interview he explicitly said he would be performing songs from the new album, so...

kk_15
06-27-2014, 12:31 PM
@ANKozhevnikov (translated from Russian): "Patriarch Kirill called and reported the bomb onstage #parklive. Marilyn's concert "a winner for life" Manson, Pzd derailed"

Anyone know?

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I would regard the info of that torn piece of paper with a BIG grain of salt... In an interview he explicitly said he would be performing songs from the new album, so...

Yes but why would he want to put on new song titles in the event of such a paper being bootlegged?

MA-86
06-27-2014, 12:34 PM
All we can do is guess at this point..

kk_15
06-27-2014, 12:34 PM
MM just posted on Twitter!

Indeed
06-27-2014, 12:39 PM
thats a perfect setlist for last tour!!!!!!

buffylover29
06-27-2014, 12:40 PM
SHOW CANCELLED DUE TO BOMB THREATS!

DecayingSinner
06-27-2014, 12:49 PM
I would regard the info of that torn piece of paper with a BIG grain of salt... In an interview he explicitly said he would be performing songs from the new album, so...


He has said a lot in the past 20 years that have never happened.

Cringeon
06-27-2014, 12:52 PM
Doesn't matter what any printed setlist might have at this point. I think they were probably doing something different with these two shows than the run in Aug.

Iulian
06-27-2014, 12:56 PM
I think the setlist is real. No one under a contract would perform new songs from an album that doesn´t even have a release date.

Nice to see Get Your Gunn there, tho.

Lord MeowMeow
06-27-2014, 12:59 PM
I would've been pretty happy with that setlist had I been in the audience and the show not canceled.

Shock Hazard
06-27-2014, 01:18 PM
I would be pissed with that setlist, as if ACSS was his only worthy release. Not enough there from MA, HW and BV.

BlueEyeLens
06-27-2014, 01:39 PM
C'mon, don't be so ungrateful. That is a good setlist, and the bonus is new songs from the new album. Respect the fact they're even touring again.

Shock Hazard
06-27-2014, 01:51 PM
To be fair, I haven't seen Manson live enough to really be sick of the hits. I just hate it when I finally catch an artist live so late in their career and that's about all they play. Happen with Elton John. Just wish I was able to go when these other albums had more emphasis.

- - - Updated - - -

He can go ahead and play Born Villain live in it's entirety, I'm probably a bigger fan of him now than 10 years ago.

Indeed
06-27-2014, 01:58 PM
Honestly the setlist is good! Angel With The Scabbed Wings as an opener is awesome. Not too many people can say they have seen that!
Mister Superstar was rarely played in 1997! Get Your Gunn hasnt been played since 1998. C'mon people cheer up! As time progresses things will get better! My only complaint is Personal Jesus! please take that god fucking awful cover off the set. Maybe Rock is Dead too. HAHA.
But anyways we got a good long setlist finally! Hopefully we can actually watch the show now without bombs being planted on the stage.

Is there anymore shows in June? or do we have to wait till August now.

BlueEyeLens
06-27-2014, 02:00 PM
Totally understandable. Setlists always change though. Like the one we just seen, it isn't like they'll play just that list on every performance. It's only day 1. I'm sure he has a lot of goodies up his sleeve for future show dates.

Narcissus Narcosis
06-27-2014, 02:07 PM
If he will start bumping his shows up to 90 min, I'll take anything...


Seen Angel with the scabbed Wings live.
AAAAAAHHHH-MMMAAAAHH-ZIIIING

AppleOfSodom
06-27-2014, 02:08 PM
Still can't believe this happened in 21st century. If there were still doubts about Russias civic regression during the last decades, here is one more sad example. It also shows how freedom of expression and words can be as feared - or even more than - as a real weapon. Sad day for rock n roll and art in general.

MechanicalWood
06-27-2014, 02:13 PM
The picture of the setlist is okay. I'd put some more stuff from other albums.
By the way I believe Get Your Gunn was played during 2005

Indeed
06-27-2014, 02:22 PM
He played in moscow like 9 times... including last year. I dont get all the commotion now

Sawastian
06-27-2014, 02:28 PM
Honestly the setlist is good! Angel With The Scabbed Wings as an opener is awesome. Not too many people can say they have seen that!
Mister Superstar was rarely played in 1997! Get Your Gunn hasnt been played since 1998. C'mon people cheer up! As time progresses things will get better! My only complaint is Personal Jesus! please take that god fucking awful cover off the set. Maybe Rock is Dead too. HAHA.
But anyways we got a good long setlist finally! Hopefully we can actually watch the show now without bombs being planted on the stage.

Is there anymore shows in June? or do we have to wait till August now.

No, Get Your Gunn was played in Against All Gods tour (2005)....

Except for Mr Superstar, the rest of the songs were played several times in the past.
I'm more interested in songs that he has never played before.

The setlist is not a big deal. The only new thing is that it has more than 13 songs...

VV_
06-27-2014, 03:09 PM
I feel sad for Marilyn Manson and the fans, what a huge waste of time for Manson and the band. I feel more sad for freedom in Russia.

kk_15
06-27-2014, 03:11 PM
I have to say I thought that tonight would have been one of his best performances since last year. His makeup, attitude, the set list and you can see the would have been stage arrangement with the red lights on stands, no more Celebritarian crosses and a lot more of a stripped down setup. I think it's a sad reflection of today's society that this sharing of free speech and music had to be cancelled, more so so suddenly and through a bombs scare from an activist themselves. I know this has upset many like myself, especially those who have travelled far to see him play - but it is what it is. Russia just missed out on a load of money at the expense of ignorance through over the top religious fanatics whilst MM can only surely have gained publicity and the opportunity to air his views on the current state of affairs through this experience. I can only hope that everyone and the band are safe and sound now and that MM continues to do what he and we love, be himself and put out great music and shows.

arkahno
06-27-2014, 07:12 PM
DO YOU LOVE YOUR GUNS, GOD, GOVERNMENT?

http://38.media.tumblr.com/d71637c1abd8c363acff83d45a47b1e5/tumblr_n7uwhduDhh1r2dxxwo1_1280.jpg

thousand_kisses
06-27-2014, 08:03 PM
He played in moscow like 9 times... including last year. I dont get all the commotion now

I am wondering about this too -- can anyone shed a bit of light on why shit's so crazy this time around when all his other appearances there pretty much went on without incident?

NapalmHeart
06-28-2014, 04:52 AM
Fuck, that setlist is perfect! And Manson looked amazing, assuming the picture he posted was from backstage when they were about to perform.

Damn, what a riot. Unbelievable.

Now, how does it feel to be in Marilyn Manson, Gil and Tyler? ;)

Shock Hazard
06-28-2014, 01:02 PM
Did he plan his other events around a religious holiday?That's what seemed to be the biggest offense here. That's what's hard about going to other countries, politics vary all the time.

FuckmanQ
06-28-2014, 09:45 PM
God dammit I was so excited to see that shit. Fuck man, ugh...guess I'll have to wait and see what's next. Fucking religious nutters.

Indeed
06-29-2014, 10:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYAuwb5Hg2U last performance in moscow was great!! dont see why its a big deal now...?

and as goes the setlist if you replace personal jesus and rock is dead with new songs we got ourselfs a good setlist.

in all honesty though... Who actually goes to a manson concert to hear Personal Jesus and Rock Is Dead.

I hate those songs...

especially when you have songs like Disassociative and Target Audience and Man That You Fear to name a few that could be played live

kk_15
06-30-2014, 05:12 AM
On the first solo date of MM's tour back in late May last year, a photo of the setlist revealed three songs had been rehearsed and placed at the bottom of the page as "alternates" including Devour, Coma White and Man That You Fear (see MansonWiki), the latter I wish was performed!

crowfaerie
06-30-2014, 11:52 AM
They should have come to Finland instead, now that they were so near! It's peaceful here. Have to admit that it scares me to live so near Russia... But what happened was so wrong in every way, couldn't really believe my eyes when I read it. Don't those people realize how incredible stupid and mostly, hypocrite, they look because of this? Manson and the band must have been so looking forward to perform and start the tour. :(

Whisky And Speed
06-30-2014, 01:50 PM
http://cs619116.vk.me/v619116691/ddb6/oTosY--jgME.jpg

http://cs614622.vk.me/v614622852/11c24/XlQG17CPiqA.jpg

MechanicalWood
06-30-2014, 02:22 PM
Pretty good setlist at least it's longer

Shock Hazard
06-30-2014, 02:42 PM
New shit as in the song or literally 'new shit?'

Whisky And Speed
06-30-2014, 03:06 PM
I think it is the song:This is the new shit. I like this song and it is an addition to the setlist as it hasn't been performed for a long time.

Cringeon
06-30-2014, 03:09 PM
It was played as part of the Masters run with Cooper. Way better live than I ever imagined.

Shock Hazard
06-30-2014, 03:25 PM
I guess the actually new shit just comes as a surprise.

kk_15
06-30-2014, 03:32 PM
It was played as part of the Masters run with Cooper. Way better live than I ever imagined.

Hmm, I wasn't a fan of how Twiggy played it to be fair. Disassociative was one of the stand out tracks of those performances for me, I'd like to see that return or any other tracks from MA or GOAG rather than an over-reliance of material from ACSS. Saying that, I'm excited to see what the band has in store come August - I'm guessing that setlist was a trial run? Either way, I just pray that MM's "big surprise" wasn't a fixed or staged cancellation to gain publicity or build up hype...

FeedYourHead
06-30-2014, 03:36 PM
Since the show wasn't cancelled until the last-last minute, does anyone have any info on merch? Anything new? New designs?

kk_15
06-30-2014, 03:39 PM
I guess the actually new shit just comes as a surprise.

MM doesn't always tend to stick to such set lists on smaller tours with fewer dates from what I've noticed. Last years leg seen the return of fan favourites like GBWW and more extravagant props rather than just reruns of his hits like the year previous. You'd think that the more time he has the more likely he would be to perform differently to keep things different but Manson just doesn't work that way?

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Since the show wasn't cancelled until the last-last minute, does anyone have any info on merch? Anything new? New designs?

I stupidly thought that the stage setup with the red lights and blue smoke was exclusive to MM until I saw Skillet have the same prior...

FeedYourHead
06-30-2014, 03:47 PM
I stupidly thought that the stage setup with the red lights and blue smoke was exclusive to MM until I saw Skillet have the same prior...

Huh? I was talking about new merch designs. Not his stage setup.

kk_15
06-30-2014, 04:05 PM
Huh? I was talking about new merch designs. Not his stage setup.

Yeah I know but I felt that the two are related.

Cringeon
06-30-2014, 04:08 PM
I was following Twitter/Instagram/VK the whole time, didn't see a single mention or picture of any merch.

Whisky And Speed
06-30-2014, 04:13 PM
It is really early to announce anything. It is not Manson's decision, it is the label's.

NapalmHeart
06-30-2014, 04:29 PM
I don't think the Antichrist Superstar songs are overplayed here in Europe. I've seen Manson in 2007, 2009 and 2012 and I've never seen Little Horn, Tourniquet, The Reflecting God, Angel With The Scabbed Wings and (obviously) Mister Superstar live.

The setlist is (would have been) great. I hope it doesn't change in August. Maybe throw in Disassociative or something else from Mechanical Animals, which I'd also love to see live.

Any thoughts why Antichrist Superstar wasn't gonna be played? Restrictions? I hope it'll be back when he plays not-fucked-up countries.

Shock Hazard
06-30-2014, 04:32 PM
He did Dissociative at the show I was at, but it's not like I was sober enough to appreciate it. Would love to see Reflecting God from that set, too bad he took out Antichrist and 1996.

Para-Noir
06-30-2014, 04:37 PM
New shit as in the song or literally 'new shit?'

Good point. Could be, since he said he would play new material.

kk_15
06-30-2014, 05:20 PM
Good point. Could be, since he said he would play new material.

And that would keep him safe from leaking new song titles early. New Shit could have been an in band pun but I doubt it.

me_andre
07-01-2014, 01:03 PM
I think that if protesters come around the next time they are set to play russia, fans will be a little bit more aggressive.