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Hazekiah
03-05-2014, 04:04 PM
O_O

CALLING IT NOW.
MOVIE OF THE YEAR.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubGpDoyJvmI

Mi-CroMartie
03-05-2014, 05:09 PM
Did I just saw Megatron transformed his face into a giant laser gun!?!??! O___o. That's....new... lol.

Also, he can transform into a T-REX!?!??! Is this a Beast Wars Transformers crossover genre?!?!?

Norsefire
03-06-2014, 09:37 AM
Awesome trailer.
Looking forward to seeing this, I think it comes out the day before I leave the US, so I may get to see it there instead of waiting for the UK release. Although I think it's only a few weeks after.

Mi-CroMartie
03-06-2014, 05:28 PM
And I thought 90% of us here hated Michael Bay movies esp. Transformers. Glad to see we're not alone. :)

Hazekiah
03-07-2014, 01:19 PM
Did I just saw Megatron transformed his face into a giant laser gun!?!??! O___o. That's....new... lol.

Also, he can transform into a T-REX!?!??! Is this a Beast Wars Transformers crossover genre?!?!?

I don't want to spoil anything for anyone (I already know WAAAAY too much about this movie, lol) but it's worth mentioning that none of what you're guessing is correct.

However, there was ONE subtle little G1/Beast Wars reference in the first film. After Sector 7 captures Bumblebee, Jazz has a quick little conference with Optimus about rescuing him and Optimus is swinging from the underside of the bridge by his hands as he lowers himself to retrieve Archibald Witwicky's glasses with the coordinates of the AllSpark imprinted on their lenses.

That's about as close as I'm expecting we'll get to seeing anything like Optimus Primal in these movies.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/120/9/4/optimus_is_a_trukk_by_dreamer45-d4y3vqc.jpg



But I do have a one word hint for you...

DINOBOTS.

Mi-CroMartie
03-07-2014, 07:07 PM
Ha. In Beast Wars Season 1, Optimus is King Kong 2.0!!! lol. Dino-Bot is a Raptor!! Yay!!!

That explains why the "Age of Extinction" was used as the sequel title. :p Dead giveaway hint there.

PREDACONS, TERRORIZE!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nxxWDU-Rno

Used to watch Beast Wars when I was 16.. Sigh, childhood memories!

Hazekiah
03-07-2014, 07:21 PM
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Optimus+Prime+is+riding+Grimlock.+Your+argument+is +invalid_e46049_5002941.png

Mi-CroMartie
03-07-2014, 07:23 PM
Grimlock looks like dragon Smaug from Hobbit 2!!! lol. :p

Norsefire
04-13-2014, 07:49 AM
Age of Extinction Will Begin New Trilogy of Transformers Films
Director Michael Bay has announced that the fourth Transformers film, Transformers: Age Of Extinction, will kick off a new trilogy for the popular Hasbro brand.

In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, the director explained, “It’s kind of like a new Transformers. We had three, the first trilogy, and this is going to be the next one... I’m not necessarily sure that I’m doing [the others], but that’s what it’s meant for.”

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/04/12/age-of-extinction-will-begin-new-trilogy-of-transformers-films

Hazekiah
05-17-2014, 01:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjs1y6m9ETk

OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG

Terrapin
07-12-2014, 07:07 AM
It would be nice if this series just withered and died already. Unfortunately, that's not going to happen for quite a while since people are still moronic enough to be sucked into it. What we are left with is Michael Bay presenting yet another steaming pile of shit to blow up in the face of Transformers fans, Loony Tunes-style.

Seriously... 17% on Rotten Tomatoes? Fucking lawl.

Mi-CroMartie
07-17-2014, 08:30 PM
the movie was 100000000 times better WITHOUT the annoying loudmouth Shia. just saying. And Beast Wars crossover reference in the final moments!!

Hazekiah
08-12-2014, 05:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/BuIBkj6CEAESjjG_zpsce2cc3a2.png


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/10455188_740737975961652_4759707080163455427_n_zps 4357d360.jpg



I didn't get to see it as many times as I would've liked, but I'll admit it was a pretty good run nevertheless.

I'm missing some ticket stubs here obviously but I saw it 28 times altogether and at least twice a day for the whole first week, w00t.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/TF_AoE_Ticket_Stubs_w00t_zps87fe2233.jpeg


YOU'RE
WELCOME,
NOW BRING ON
TRANSFORMERS 5 & 6!!!

\m/ -___- \m/

Hazekiah
09-16-2014, 04:24 AM
Building upon the foundation of my earlier essay examining the connections between Star Trek and Transformers: Dark of the Moon ("Arise, SPOCKTIMUS PRIME" Parts ONE (http://www.providermodule.com/forum/showthread.php/3111-Transformers-Dark-of-the-Moon?p=99957&viewfull=1#post99957) and TWO (http://www.providermodule.com/forum/showthread.php/3111-Transformers-Dark-of-the-Moon?p=99959&viewfull=1#post99959)), I couldn't HELP but add a bit more when I saw Transformers: Age of Extinction...



OMFG
DID ANYONE ELSE SEE
SPOCK IN CADE'S BARN?


Erm...Cade's laboratory, that is, lol.

Spock's likeness was kinda hidden in the shadows and only seen briefly, but it was definitely there!

So, let's discuss a couple things about that.

Firstly, it's very interesting that of ALL the photos they could've used of Spock, they chose one of him in his RED uniform from the movies (as opposed to his shirt from the show or his quickly-discarded wardrobe from the 1st film). "Interesting," I say, because not only are there so many different uniforms of Spock's to choose from, but the one they chose was first introduced in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan!

That's right, the very same film from which they sampled Bumblebee's dialogue in Transformers: Dark of the Moon, as well as the source of Sentinel Prime's clever line, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

Not to mention, of course, the fact that the photo of Spock in his red uniform is YET ANOTHER example of the "color coding" found in these films, as I've detailed in several earlier threads such as this example (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/510454-red-cup-freakout-scene-core-movie.html).




AWESOMENESS.




Also of interest, Cade's barn, again, was much MORE than just a barn. It was actually a laboratory...you know, for an INVENTOR. And what was Sentinel Prime again?

That's right. An inventor!

Sentinel Prime of course created the Pillars, a space bridge technology suspiciously similar to the transporter beams of Star Trek lore. And Sentinel was not only described as "the technology's inventor," but what else?

That's right, "the Einstein of his civilization."

Hell, Sentinel Prime was even first introduced in conjunction with Einstein, way back in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, when Sam disproved Einstein's theories with a rant about the Sentinel Prime expedition during his first day of college in Astronomy 101.

And in addition to Cade's barn serving as a lab for an inventor AND a hiding spot for Sentinel's fellow Prime and successor, any guesses who else's picture was hanging in there with Spock's...?




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/_aa_albert_zps8ce6cd7d.jpg




Annnd that photo of Spock wasn't just hanging on the walls like most of the other set decorations on display.

Nooooo.

Spock's picture was hanging on a support beam in the middle of the structure.

Or, in other words, Spock's picture was literally hanging ON A PILLAR.

Hmmmmmmmm.





INTRIGUING.




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/bf5ab096-17da-4e48-afe2-78925ac136dc_zps08e175e1.jpg?t=1410691193

Hazekiah
10-12-2014, 05:30 AM
STORE DISPLAYS
SAID "STEEL"
I ASSUMED THAT
WAS A TYPO




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/_A_steal_zpscb1c6aaa.jpg

Halo Infinity
10-12-2014, 05:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9K6R35Ah-k

Hazekiah
07-09-2015, 05:03 AM
So I'm a member of the biggest Transformers forum online and I recently posted the first of MANY threads I've had in mind for the past year since Transformers: Age of Extinction was released. I hadn't really written anything down until a couple days before the anniversary on June 27th, though...which meant I had to kinda wing it, but I think it's turned out pretty well and worth sharing, so w/e, here you go!

Oh, and the site I submitted it to has all these retarded rules about sex, politics, and abortion, so that's what I'm talking about and dancing around in a couple places. Just the other day I actually got my signature image removed and earned an infraction for it because someone there finally figured out it was Manson and had obviously been breaking those rules since forever, lol.

Anyway, here it is.

Lemme know what you think!





EXPOSING
THE KNIGHTHOOD THEME
IN TRANSFORMERS:
AGE OF EXTINCTION





It's been almost AN ENTIRE YEAR since Transformers: Age of Extinction hit theaters and I have yet to see a FULL exploration of this movie's KNIGHTHOOD THEME and how thoroughly and ingeniously it's embedded within the film.

In honor of tomorrow's anniversary of the movie's release, I've begun ramping up my efforts to finally get started with the MANY detailed threads I've been planning to share this past year. I've had to rush to get this out on time so it's still going to be an ever-expanding work-in-progress for awhile, but HEY it's off to a good start, at least. So bear with me, plz!

Literally every single time I watch this film I can't help but catch SO many subtly interwoven thematic elements the whole way through and think to myself, "WTF IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE???"


WHY ARE WE NOT
TALKING ABOUT THIS?!?
o_O


And now here's a thread SPECIFICALLY for that!

HUZZAH!!!

\o/

So here we go, HAIL TO THE KING and all that.

First and foremost, obviously, is Optimus Prime's upgrade...


OPTIMUS KNIGHT

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/121022_OptimusKnight_JN_V006_zpsdj5tmxrc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/300px-Transformers-_Age_of_ExtinctionOptimusPrimePoster_zpsx7h3r7bq.j pg~original

Of course, his newly-revealed status as a Knight would have been even more clear if the filmmakers had followed through more fully with the "Silver Knight" concept art for Optimus Prime's "Knight Upgrade," but almost ALL of the same knight's armor design elements are still quite apparent in the film. After all, he has his sword, his neck-guards, his skirting, etc. He even gets gauntlets and a shield, eventually!

Which raises the question of HOW exactly he got that sword, the gauntlets, and the shield...?


HE PULLED A
SWORD FROM A STONE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Transformers_4_Recognize_one_of_your_Knights_zpskd yymwqh.gif~original
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/sword-in-the-stone-o_zpstplnpprl.gif

That's right, Optimus Prime basically reenacted the Arthurian myth of the Sword in the Stone!

And what did he do next?

Oh, yeah...


HE FOUGHT A
FIRE-BREATHING DRAGON
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Transformers-4-Age-of-Extinction-Grimlock-Fire-Breath-header_zpsr75qtjaw.jpg~original

But, naturally, any self-respecting knight needs his stallion and the glory of combat.

So what was Prime's NEXT order of business after taming the dragon?


CHARGING INTO BATTLE
ON HIS VALIANT STEED
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Screen-Shot-2014-02-03-at-00.31.15_zps7xcjp857.png

And that same "dragon/steed" is, obviously, based on the Tyrannosaurus Rex. The Latin for "Rex," of course, LITERALLY translating into "KING."

I mean...just sayin'!

But I digress.

Speaking of the Dinobots, the film sees them reconceptualized instead as "legendary warriors" and, presumably, Optimus Prime's fellow Knights, a notion reflected in their character designs and weaponry. We see them with helmets, faceplates, spiked boots, maces, flails, etc., all of distinctly medieval, "knightly" origin.

For instance...


A DINOBOT
IN KNIGHT'S ARMOR
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/TF4ConceptArtBurt_zps2ausgfzs.jpg~original

Speaking of which...


THE KNIGHTSHIP
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/4372179-knightterminus1_zpsvlwxrbtc.jpg

IS A CROWN
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Meridies_MaxCrown_zpss3orquc1.jpg

Also, as Lockdown told Optimus, The Knightship was "built for all you knights, you great crusaders," alluding to not only the fact that Lockdown's ship (traditionally his own "Nightship") was instead built for the Knights before being commandeered by him, but also establishing that it was built for their "crusades," a reference to the medieval expeditions and campaigns waged by Knights.

For instance...


CRUSADING KNIGHTS
IN THEIR SHIPS
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Ships-1_zpsvvmysull.jpg

And, perhaps MOST interestingly, Lockdown mockingly welcomes a captive Optimus back to a VERY SPECIAL part of the Knightship...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/11733914_10152992366936918_1540520587_o_zpsqxeqjuk j.jpg

Easily the most obscure reference the film makes to the age of chivalry is its use of the word "TEMENOS," which, as mentioned in another thread (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/1044733-what-words-did-you-learn-transformers.html), is an ancient term for what's essentially a temple or sanctuary, often meant for communing with divinity.

In fact, the temenos of the Knightship seems to be where Optimus pulls the sword from the "stone" and beseeches an unseen force to "Recognize one of your knights," before being awarded his further Knight-upgrades and weaponry in response.

Interestingly, a similar dynamic is afoot with regards to Cade's own adventures. He uses a VERY SUSPICIOUS choice of words to describe his rural Texan research lab/barn...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/11725352_10152992942096918_1639574943_o_zpsrjoylvg o.jpg


In other words, it's a TEMENOS!

XD

Furthermore, it's ALSO the first of TWO temenos sites to which Optimus is dragged against his will (not to mention repaired and/or upgraded), which serves as a "prime example," if you will, of the MANY recurring motifs echoing throughout the film.

Reiterating and cleverly solidifying the motif of the temenos, Cade even says a kind of prayer while he's in his makeshift lab/barn/temenos, much like Optimus himself does in his own Knightship's temenos later. After Cade extinguishes a fire in his lab, he rather poignantly exclaims as he approaches Optimus, "God! Something in here has to make this family some money. Come on, you old wreck. Judgment day."

It's subtle and understated...but it's definitely a prayer inside a temenos!

And, as if that prayer were answered, Cade soon discovers that the truck is in fact a Transformer, from which, one way or another, he intends to reap financial gains. Then, in the process, he revives Optimus and repairs his "spark," which Cade explains humans call a "soul."

Keeping in mind that the fire within the barn/lab/temenos was sparked immediately following Cade's little moment to himself where he sees a shooting star and communes with his dearly departed one true love, and that the film ends with Optimus telling Cade to look to the stars and think of one of them as his "soul" while he's away, it's clearly not only another tidy little motif at work here but also yet another example of the Knighthood theme at work in the film.

Now, I don't want to get into the religious connotations here too much in deference to the forum's rules about such things (goofy though they may be when the movie itself raises the issue), so I'll just leave it at that and point out that I'm simply carefully explaining the film's symbolism in its own language here, with as much neutrality as possible, and that the symbolism in question does indeed connect DIRECTLY to the theme of KNIGHTS and their general worldview.

After all, medieval knights were VERY MUCH concerned with such matters. Souls, honor, love and all that. I'm sure you get the point.

But back to the Knightship for a moment, when Cade almost literally stumbles into its armory, what does he find there?



OH, HEY, IT'S A
ROUNDTABLE!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Transformers_Age_of_Extinction_Concept_Art_SJ_M0_z psclvmtrys.jpg~original


ANOTHER REFERENCE
TO ARTHURIAN LEGEND
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/King-Arthurs-roundtable1_zpsat4z5jlb.jpg

And, speaking of Arthurian legend, when we're introduced to K.S.I.'s own robot lab and "temple of technology," where Joshua Joyce is cracked the code of the Transformium genome, they use a VERY intriguing term to refer to it...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/11539702_10152992943261918_1852564364_o_zpscdssh3w e.jpg

TWICE

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/11725047_10152992367646918_11481060_o_zps9tneb5a9. jpg


Yes, the Holy Grail, the prize of Arthurian legend!

Additionally, he later refers to that "Holy Grail" as his company's "Salvation," not to mention calling Darcy "Princess"...albeit sarcastically, lol.

And then there's the matter of the movie's OTHER "princess"...Cade's daughter, Tessa.


SPECIFICALLY,
HER CHASTITY
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/maxresdefault%201_zpswotxdzks.jpg

I've got a whole separate thread planned around that and, again, the board's rules make it a little tricky to discuss...but I'd say it's already MORE THAN CLEAR that a good bit of this movie dwells upon Cade's overbearing protectiveness of his daughter's chastity, which was similarly of great concern to knights in medieval times and, ultimately, plays directly into the theme of knighthood which everyone is hopefully beginning to see is TRULY pervasive throughout this film.

But MORE on that LATER!

;)

In the meantime, I think I've pretty much made my point here, lol.

Just to be thorough, however...

Right off the bat, there's a particularly sly, subtle little allusion the the medieval theme which cleverly foreshadows the later revelation of Optimus Prime's Knighthood.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/11713167_10152992366576918_1048296200_o_zpsy0jmddl l.jpg

And let's not forget the deck of "kill cards" Attinger uses to keep track of the Transformers he's hunting! Yep, it features an assortment of medieval symbolism itself...


JACKS, QUEENS,
KINGS, AND JOKERS

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/11733783_10152995241416918_652521415_o_zpsgzgtxxhq .jpg

On a similar note, there's the curious phrase Lockdown uses shortly after referencing Prime's knighthood...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/11731436_10152995241576918_900690300_o_zpsrz7yasns .jpg

This AGAIN refers to a game positively STEEPED in medieval symbolism; kings, queens, bishops, pawns, rooks, castles.

OH, AND YEAH...
KNIGHTS

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Knight-chess_zpsvv7siluy.jpg

One tiny bit that was REALLY difficult to finally catch however was THIS little detail. The ring that Savoy wears on his finger for his Cemetary Wind black ops missions (and likely in honor of his sister as well) is a skull inscribed with the words "Memento Mori," meaning roughly, "Remember Death," or "Remember that you have to die," an ancient Latin phrase greatly in vogue during medieval times and a concept adopted by numerous orders of knights verbatim.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/11706007_10152971268201918_165310605_o_zpswbwgv2f9 .jpg

And, perhaps the masterstroke here, we also have the movie's soundtrack, by a band which is actually called Imagine DRAGONS.

But, furthermore, the song they contributed to the movie which is MOST FREQUENTLY interwoven throughout the score is THIS track...



THE KING IS CROWNED
IT'S DO OR DIE



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZtMHSOq50Q


I absolutely LOVE how all these thematic elements relevant to knighthood are SO exceedingly entwined within every bit of the film, perhaps all the more because of how completely so much of it seems to have gone RIGHT over everyone's heads! A lot of it really IS pretty clever, interesting, and incredibly subtle...particularly considering how BLATANTLY the theme is presented elsewhere.

Man, I love it and it really IS quite a feat!

Personally, I think it's pretty cool stuff, too...most of which I've never seen mentioned anywhere.

Especially keeping in mind what short shrift this movie often gets from critics, it seems increasingly important to help bring these elements to light and to help raise the general audience's awareness that, indeed, there certainly IS a great deal more going on with this movie and its symbolism than is generally acknowledged.

And what a shame that is!

I honestly find the multifaceted applications of the motifs to be utterly fascinating filmmaking.

I hope that YOU had some fun and found all this to be informative and interesting, too!

:)


Oh, and one last AWESOME reference to Knighthood!



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/11543102_10152968193341918_665568678_o_zps6ng44scf .jpg~original

dskzero
07-09-2015, 05:38 AM
I'm not sure I should be laughing at this.

But I am.

Shangri-LIE
07-09-2015, 05:41 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu8gdgfVlF1qay0tlo4_250.jpg

Two Faced Egg (23)
07-09-2015, 11:42 AM
Hazekiah , Sir ... that Ruled' I appreciate it ! I will have to check out that Forum now. Great Job' (TwentyThree) LonGnome

Hazekiah
11-12-2015, 05:53 PM
This is more about TF:RotF, obviously...but I thought some of you might get a kick out of this thread I started elsewhere too, lol.

Enjoy!





DEVASTATOR'S WRECKING BALLS
ARE THE CORE OF THE MOVIE!!!


Firstly, it's worth noting that I find Devastator's wrecking ball scrotum absolutely HILARIOUS and in no way in need of ANY further justification beyond that alone.

However, as with my similarly-titled thread analyzing the symbolism of a likewise commonly dismissed and VASTLY unappreciated scene from Transformers: Dark of the Moon, The Red Cup FREAKOUT Scene is THE CORE OF THE MOVIE!!!, I assure you that I am actually 1,000% SERIOUS about this and hope you'll all gird your loins long enough to hear me out and bear with me for the sake of better understanding the IMMENSE subtlety of such a BLATANTLY balls-out and IN-YOUR-FACE yet somehow still incredibly sneaky and clever scene such as THIS:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Mobile%20Uploads/transformers-revenge-movie-screencaps.com-15502_zpsywqacxnu.jpg

As with my recent thread about English words hidden in Cybertronian dialogue, I'd been meaning to post about this for a LONG time but never really got around to it until the subject came up in another thread recently. Or, more accurately in this case, about a BILLION threads.

Unfortunately, I've simply never quite had the time after joining this forum due to my exceedingly busy schedule traveling and because whenever I finally HAVE had the time I was also having LOTS of trouble finding the screencaps I wanted for this thread. Luckily, I was bored enough today to take another look around and LO AND BEHOLD! the screencaps I'd been looking for all this time were just a quick google search away!

Also, I'd just like to further preface this by pointing out that I'd MUCH RATHER be working on the many, many threads regarding Transformers: Age of Extinction which I've been chipping away at in my notebooks over the past year, like my exploration of the knighthood theme in that film, but w/e...those are all pretty damned involved and I can bash this one out RIGHT now, so all in good time, right? Plus, I should've posted this about SIX years ago so I'm even further behind schedule on THIS one, lol.

So here we go!

As I'm sure you're all WELL aware, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen is easily the most maligned film of the series to date, and no scene in the film is MORE reviled by its detractors than THIS scene. Often called "pointless," it is among the most blatant examples of the so-called "toilet humor" which is so commonly at the heart of the movie's criticisms, particularly because so many think it "has no place" in the movie or any value AT ALL beyond that of a cheap laugh.


THIS THREAD SEEKS TO REMEDY
THAT MISUNDERSTANDING.

So what IS the "core" of the movie, and how exactly DOES this scene fit into that thematic statement???

As the opening and closing monologues of this movie establish, one of the core plot points of the entire movie is the revelation that Earth and Cybertron share a FAR more ancient history together than was previously known. In fact, the film even goes so far as to establish that the core of the dispute between Autobots and Decepticons actually revolves around The Fallen's attempt to break the code of the Primes by eradicating all life on Earth with the Sun Harvester for his own selfish and evil motives.

But, stepping back from those points for a moment, we must also acknowledge the baselessness of yet another common criticism of the film, regarding the so-called "toilet humor" prevalent throughout, such as the Witwicky family's pets humping away on the sofa, for instance.
However, are they even really fornicating?

Nope! In fact, Ron Witwicky's dialogue makes that explicitly clear:


MOJO! STOP DOMINATING FRANKIE!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Mobile%20Uploads/transformers-revenge-movie-screencaps.com-1109_zpsmudxaka6.jpg

Yes, as the scene above establishes, the "dog-humping" scenes DO NOT depict actual reproductive acts, but represent instead acts of DOMINANCE, behavior which even neutered males and the female of the species engage in socially to express their "alpha" status over others.

Likewise, the scene of Wheelie "humping" Mikaela's leg later in the film is meant as a display of dominance for the film's audience as much as for the characters themselves, brilliantly set-up and foreshadowed by Mojo's OWN display of dominance over Frankie, illustrating not only that Mikaela is Wheelie's "goddess" and that he belongs to her, but also that SHE belongs to HIM, much to Sam's dismay.


YEAH! YEAH! SAY MY NAME! SAY MY NAME!

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Which leads me to the point of this thread!

How exactly do these so often derided and misunderstood scenes play into the movie's CORE themes of a shared history between Earth and Cybertron and the root of the schism between the Autobots and Decepticons?

Wait for it...

Ladies and gentlemen, I proudly submit to you...


DECEPTICONS DOMINATING OUR PLANET


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All of which taken together, I hasten to add, demonstrates a FANTASTICALLY subtle and clever employment of The Screenwriter's Rule of Three, simultaneously establishing the underpinnings of the humor and, more importantly, the very meaning of the scene in question, wherein we see Devastator straddling an ancient monument from Earth's history and revealing it to be in actuality, the Sun Harvester, an instrument of Decepticon dominance over mankind.

Pretty clever stuff for a film so many people constantly accuse of being so poorly written!

Hell, this theme of domination which the film constructs over the course of three, evenly spaced acts even offers something in the way of a more intrinsically naturalistic explanation for the movie's similarly widely-criticized transformation of Devastator from his traditional, bipedal design to that of a lumbering, four-legged beast-like design, insofar as it makes more plainly recognizable the visual parallel between Mojo's dominance over Frankie and Devastator's dominance over us.

And for anyone who thinks that the filmmakers underutilized and failed to take FULL advantage of their unprecedented access to the Great Pyramids of Giza, or that this scene was nothing more than a tasteless, throwaway gag with no place or purpose within the movie, I sincerely suggest turning your brain back on and PAYING ATTENTION to what's actually going on within the scene and the film as a whole.

I mean, this stuff is PURE GOLD, man!

Even the so-called "lowbrow" humor of Simmons' dialogue perfectly encapsulates the visual metaphor of Decepticon domination over not only Earth's history but, indeed, MANKIND ITSELF.

To wit...


I AM DIRECTLY BELOW ENEMY SCROTUM!

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And there we have it!

Naturally, I have A LOT more to say on this subject, but I'll save that for a later date since I can already feel the nerdrage, hatred, and blind rejection coming my way after explaining all this, lol.

In the meantime, I hope you've found this as enjoyable as it is enlightening!

:)

Hazekiah
04-15-2016, 07:54 PM
So for those of you who don't know, Michael Bay's interview in "Rolling Stone" last December broke the news that he was returning for TF5 and already working on shots for it with ILM. Earlier this week we also learned that Isabela Moner was cast as a young girl whose only friend is a small Transformer, too.

But, as they've ramped up the production to begin actually filming (mostly in Detroit and London), we also learned today that one of the sites they have their eyes on is Stonehenge!

Sooo excited for this, especially since it plays RIGHT into the knighthood theme examined in my my essay on the previous page!

Well, possibly, at least.

Here's the post I just made about it in my thread on the subject:



Man, I still have a LOT more to say about all this and keep meaning to tweak the OP and add some stuff, but I've been living on the road since I wrote this and tour-chasing and life in general keep getting in the way.

Someday!

In the meantime, there's been a pretty cool development today regarding the knighthood theme found within the Transformers films. And I do mean that in the PLURAL sense, since the whole motif of knight-based design elements for the Transformers themselves began with Sentinel Prime, as revealed within the bonus features for TF:DotM, which is particularly of interest since he himself may have been a Cybertronian knight like his successor was revealed to have been in the following film.

But I digress.

As many of you may have noticed, the news broke today that TF5 has not only been scouting for filming locations in England, but specifically at STONEHENGE.

And so the plot thickens!

Intriguingly, one early, fictional accounting of the building of Stonehenge, by Geoffrey of Monmouth from his 14th century book Historia Regum Brittaniae, was that it was built by none other than Merlin himself and that King Arthur's father was buried inside its ring.

Of course there's no real way of knowing for sure exactly what their plans are for Stonehenge, but the very fact that they plan to film there at all would seem to suggest that the exploration of the knighthood theme from the previous two films is set to continue apace with the fifth!

OMFG I CANNOT WAIT.

Also of interest, and potential relevance to this discussion, is the lingering mystery of how exactly the massive blocks of Stonehenge were moved there and erected by ancient man. In fact, Merlin himself was said to have enlisted the help of "giants" in the task, an illustration of which from the same book by Geoffrey of Monmouth happens to be the earliest known depiction of Stonehenge, as seen below.

So.

Anyone wanna bet those giants who built Stonehenge will soon turn out to have been from Cybertron???

XD




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Hazekiah
06-09-2016, 10:32 AM
Annnd they've
OFFICIALLY CAST
AN ACTUAL FUCKING KNIGHT
in TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT.
Welcome, SIR Anthony Hopkins!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/image_zpsjdnpfp3f.jpeg
O_O

Hazekiah
06-10-2016, 12:16 AM
OMG I JUST FELL IN LOVE
WITH A GIRL ON FOX NEWS.

o_O

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/156668277-story




I'm in LOVE with that girl in the news report. Kaylee? Hell, I bet she's the one who told them the cop car was Barricade. She is TOO fucking awesome!

She knows her factions, calls herself a superfan, we own the same Optimus Prime piņata, and we even posed for pix with the same standee, lol.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/image_zpsv1ymtgyz.jpeg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lz9-oQPIGo

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Hazekiah
06-30-2016, 01:11 PM
So Transformers: The Last Knight just hired Sir Lancelot from "Merlin," lol.

>_>

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHSfP9EAIi_/