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mr.svperstar13
03-04-2016, 03:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9YJS4nTNsM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YH0fPeYoAA

Has anyone noticed this?


It's like a stranger had a key, came inside of my mind
And moved all my things around
He didn't know that snakes can't kneel or pray
Can't try to break the psyche down

There isn't a key,
You can use on me
There isn't a key,
So lay down your arms
Arms
Arms

So, I think most are aware LDYGDA is about Manson fighting himself, right? Makes me wonder if there's any correlation between the two or simply a coincidence. Is Manson saying that he's become a stranger to himself?

Or am I just talking about my ass?

I think I'm just talking out my ass.

cataract777
03-04-2016, 04:18 PM
I can't quite put my finger in it, but I think it may be a bit of both.

One way you can look at it is it's as if Manson has somehow become weakened to allow whomever tries to commit destruction into his mind, and as a result they "moved all of his things around". Whereas before he proclaimed there wasn't a key you can use on him, something managed to break him down. I don't particularly think there's a corellation between the two though.

Cringeon
03-04-2016, 09:43 PM
I think key to the heart is a bit different than someone getting inside your head. Both obviously require letting people get close, but Deep Six could be less about someone but a sudden shift in his mind as if someone rearranged.

Xenia
03-04-2016, 11:29 PM
I think key to the heart is a bit different than someone getting inside your head. Both obviously require letting people get close, but Deep Six could be less about someone but a sudden shift in his mind as if someone rearranged.

I was thinking along those lines as well. I thought of the story of Cupid and Psyche.

S.D.
03-08-2016, 07:56 AM
It might be prudent to remember that locks, like doors, operate inwardly as well as out. As Manson warned during The High End Of Low; "I'm well aware I'm a danger to myself, are you aware I'm a danger to others?".
Perhaps the songs are not just suggesting that he can be 'unlocked' (weakened) but rather that using this 'key' can result in being locked inside, or releasing what was dormant. It works in tandem with Manson's suspicion of psychiatry.

YoureAlreadyHere
03-08-2016, 07:46 PM
"...and the lock has been raped"

Manson15Marilyn
04-19-2016, 06:51 PM
:rolleyes: People are still on the whole 'dual personality' stink? Well, this is a Manson fan site [over]anal-izing forum...

Anyways, this song shares a concept with pretty much every album since the golden age of grotesque. Its basically a personal journey that's had to deal with pain, stripping the self down, and rebuilding anew; the process of personal growth. And each album is just a different stage of that process. And it isn't over yet. The Pale Emperor was just a lesson in one's own mortality, no matter how much "swagger" you carry with you its all gonna end for each one of us eventually. And so the next album is gonna be the next stage pretty much.

Its like a stranger had a key, came inside my mind, and moved all my things around. He didn't know snakes can't kneel or pray; can't try to break the psyche down.

To open this box, you can't shoot the lock.
...
There isn't a key you can use on me

I broke open the box when I spoke the spell, and I became an entrance wound to your bedroom grave. And I was paid with the shadow of consensual rape.

You'll have to cut it down and burn me into splinters, or I'll unwrap the string that was me around your finger and I'll hang you in your bedroom burial ground

I think the lock metaphor has more to do with opening up to other people. In Deep Six I'm pretty sure its about how there are people who mess with his head but "they don't know who they're messing with."

In EAT ME, DRINK ME there was the line about the lock being raped and that's an easy one, somebody got into his head; this other someone who had been in all the songs on that album.

blue angel
08-18-2016, 06:00 PM
:rolleyes: People are still on the whole 'dual personality' stink? Well, this is a Manson fan site [over]anal-izing forum...

Anyways, this song shares a concept with pretty much every album since the golden age of grotesque. Its basically a personal journey that's had to deal with pain, stripping the self down, and rebuilding anew; the process of personal growth. And each album is just a different stage of that process. And it isn't over yet. The Pale Emperor was just a lesson in one's own mortality, no matter how much "swagger" you carry with you its all gonna end for each one of us eventually. And so the next album is gonna be the next stage pretty much.

Its like a stranger had a key, came inside my mind, and moved all my things around. He didn't know snakes can't kneel or pray; can't try to break the psyche down.

To open this box, you can't shoot the lock.
...
There isn't a key you can use on me

I broke open the box when I spoke the spell, and I became an entrance wound to your bedroom grave. And I was paid with the shadow of consensual rape.

You'll have to cut it down and burn me into splinters, or I'll unwrap the string that was me around your finger and I'll hang you in your bedroom burial ground

I think the lock metaphor has more to do with opening up to other people. In Deep Six I'm pretty sure its about how there are people who mess with his head but "they don't know who they're messing with."

In EAT ME, DRINK ME there was the line about the lock being raped and that's an easy one, somebody got into his head; this other someone who had been in all the songs on that album.
And his theme since Eat Me, Drink Me has been threatening and he's been doing just that since, with himself.

Manson15Marilyn
08-19-2016, 09:58 AM
Where'd you get that from?

blue angel
08-19-2016, 12:02 PM
Have you listened to these songs since Eat Me, Drink Me? They are all full of threats. I don't see how anyone would even question this.

Manson15Marilyn
08-19-2016, 12:37 PM
Have you listened to these songs since Eat Me, Drink Me? They are all full of threats. I don't see how anyone would even question this.
I'm asking where you got that they're somehow threats against himself

blue angel
08-19-2016, 02:01 PM
I'm asking where you got that they're somehow threats against himself
It's all in the song lyrics, along with his actions since Eat Me, Drink Me. Observe, is all that I can give you.

Manson15Marilyn
08-19-2016, 02:53 PM
Well, give me an example. Fill me in where I'm missing out

blue angel
08-19-2016, 03:07 PM
You'll never see it if it's that hard for you to see at all. It's in absolutely everything. If it's not how you see things, that is fine, but I am not going to connect the dots for you and I never ask that of others.

Manson15Marilyn
08-19-2016, 03:28 PM
Lol would have been easier for you to say you have no proof or facts :p

blue angel
08-19-2016, 03:43 PM
If that were true, perhaps. If you need to, you can just write to me in my private messages and keep it clean here.

Manson15Marilyn
08-19-2016, 03:47 PM
Well, I don't think it would be off topic to provide examples of what you propose. That's what this thread is all about, really