The Number 15

[ikkedylandus]

It's been discussed a lot, first on MA, now back on THEOL,
15: Manson's Birthday 5 January, 1/5 = 15
The Devil is the 15th card of the Major Arcana.
And SO on..
Post your own interpretations..

[The Empirical Guy]

Oh, there are dozens of them. It seemed every couple of weeks someone was finding new ones. Is there somewhere that archived the phant threads on this? People were always finding stuff on there. The most recent one, which I found interesting, is that there are 51 songs in the Triptych (counting track 99 on ACSS, and Untitled on MA). Of course, Manson stated the Triptych went backwards, and so 51=15.

I'm disappointed though that he didn't specifically plant 15 references to 15. There's way more than that though.

[absinthe bunny]

I'm disappointed though that he didn't specifically plant 15 references to 15. There's way more than that though.

Or 15 references to 15 references to 15 references of 15 :-)

Here are some I know, often unintended and just fan discoveries IMO, but cool to search for:

Personally related to Manson:
1.His birthday 1/5
2.Brian Hugh Warner has 15 letters

Mechanical Animals album:

1.cover reads 'Mar1lyn Man5on'
2. track title 'New Model no. 15'
3.15 squares on the Omega logo's forehead
4.booklet of MA has 'ma3x5./bk' in it: 3x5=15
5.booklet of MA has 'co51.24ahx' in it: 51 ~ 15 backwards
6.booklet of MA has a big '15' next to the '1234567891011121314' MA lyrics sheet indicates the hidden 15th track on the cd
7.lyrics of IDLTDBTDLM: 'we are ready for our 15 minutes of fame'
8.MA release date september 15 1998 (or 9/15 (9+1+5=15)
9.booklet of MA has an image of a scale showing an indicator passing 15 (Fundamentally Loathsome sheet)
10.'New Model': the word 'new' appears 15 times in the lyrics sheet. The number of lines not including the chorusses is 15. 'New' (3 letters) x 'Model' (5 letters) = 15
11.The website used to have a message '015' by Manson in the MA era
12.The sum of the tracks that made it to a single is 2 (TDS) + 6 (IDLTDBTDLM) + 9 (RID) = 15
13.2 pictures + 3 pills + 4 resuscitation pictures + 3 keyboard pictures + 3 graphical instructions = 15
14.'O' is the 15th letter of the alfabeth (Omega / hollow as the 'O' in God)
15.MA booket: '325mg' (read it as 3 'to' 5 = 3x5 = 15)
16.IDLITDBTDLM video: the kid wears a jersey with 87 on it (8+7 = 15)
17.'15 appears on the TV screen as the channel's logo

Other eras:
1.Tarot card 15: devil card
2.Tracks '15' and 'fifteen' on the THEOL album

[The Empirical Guy]

12.The sum of the tracks that made it to a single is 2 (TDS) + 6 (IDLTDBTDLM) + 9 (RID) = 15

Wow, never spotted that before. Does the man really plan this, or is it all some giant, galactic coincidence.

Are we sure we shouldn't count CW though? Not a single per se, but released as a radio promo with a video.

[absinthe bunny]

Wow, never spotted that before. Does the man really plan this, or is it all some giant, galactic coincidence.

Are we sure we shouldn't count CW though? Not a single per se, but released as a radio promo with a video.

I'm sure the man didn't plan them all, just obsessed fans looking waaay to deep in it :-) But it's interesting to read them.

[Mexicanfiend]

12.The sum of the tracks that made it to a single is 2 (TDS) + 6 (IDLTDBTDLM) + 9 (RID) = 15

Wow, never spotted that before. Does the man really plan this, or is it all some giant, galactic coincidence.

Are we sure we shouldn't count CW though? Not a single per se, but released as a radio promo with a video.

2 + 6 + 9 = 17, not 15.

Plus, Coma White had a video release... that must count, doesn't it?

[absinthe bunny]

2 + 6 + 9 = 17, not 15.

Plus, Coma White had a video release... that must count, doesn't it?

Sorry mistake in the post, it should be:
The dope show 2
Rock is Dead 4
IDLTDBTDLM 9
=15

But good point about the CW video indeed. Seems there has been an over-enthousiastic fan who's '15' I wrote down without looking closely enough. But when I think about it, it would count if you only count the ones with a single release (not counting CW since it's only on promotional single available as far as I know).

[ikkedylandus]

Or 15 references to 15 references to 15 references of 15 :-)

You're searching Far.. =PP

[S.D.]

Obviously you cannot have an uneven number of pages to something, but if you consider that the central image of Manson across the chair is one single image, that means that the Mechanical Animals booklet has fifteen separate "panels", as all the other pages represent a solitary unit.

[The Empirical Guy]

Another good find, S.D.

I think it's interesting how with the new album he's been paying recognition to the fact that 15 "just keeps happening". Which leads me to think that not all are intentional.