anti-people, now you've gone too far.
I prefer prevention, but abortion comes in handy as a last line of defense. Overpopulation is a major problem. Guys, you are better off nipping this issue quickly by simply having a vasectomy and ridding chances of contributing to this huge problem we're currently encountering. Ladies, get your tubes tied and help us fellas out. Our unbridled numbers and the amount of resources we ingest, while at the same time polluting it back, is horrific. You, as a single individual, will increase your carbon footprint 40 times just by having two kids. I sure as shit don't want to be paying money to help out your retarded family, so help a brotha out and lighten up economic load as well. Bonus points goes out to sodomy here. Or how about buying some fucking condoms?
I believe having an abortion shows signs of the individual being irresponsible in many cases, but still a necessary procedure in keeping our population in check. That is until we can come together and stop making such a dramatic impact on the planet through reproduction. *high hopes*
Some extraneous food for thought: who else believes that having a kid involves the decision between two people instead of just the woman? Say if the woman wants the kid but the man doesn't, or vice versa? Would you not agree that if people feel responsible enough to be having sex, they should also be responsible enough with each other to make these kinds of decisions mutually? (Obviously I'm not talking about rape in this instance)
Last edited by Terrapin; 04-25-2012 at 02:20 PM.
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You're absolutely right, overpopulation is a massive problem that is greatly exacerbated by families with a small army of children. In 3rd world countries where birth control is harder to come by, and the children may well have a lower survival rate anyway, it's a different manner but when you see Western families popping out 4, 5, 6 or more kids just because they "love children so much!"... yeah, that kind of pisses me off. I love dogs, but I don't have a dozen of them. Kids are not toys, either. Throw all you love in to your children their whole lives, don't just pop out another when the previous outgrows that baby cute stage.
As for your second point, it's entirely up to both parties and should be discussed previously. I'd never enter in to some sort of serious relationship with someone where we were having sex regularly without having at least discussed the basics of how we feel about children and what we intend to do should she fall pregnant. It helps a lot to clear that sort of thing up before hand, before the emotion of the moment becomes involved. At the end of the day, the baby is in the woman's womb and it's her choice - if the father wants the baby and she wants to go get an abortion, it's up to her and, unfortunately, there's not much he can do about it. In the reverse case, it gets stickier - if there's an agreement that they don't want a child, but then after falling pregnant the woman has the child anyway, then what? The father is put up for 18 years of financial help against his wishes. It would seem fair that if the child was born against his wishes and proper birth control was observed in the first place etc, he shouldn't be accountable for this cost. That seems hard to put in to practice though as you then get a lot of deadbeat dads saying "Naw, I never wanted that kid!". It's not really something that's easily provable.
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It's best to ask yourself, would YOU ever have an abortion. And with that, no I would not. Ever. I have no opinion towards people who have done it, or would do it when they need to. I never want to be pregnant either. I want to adopt.
I'll confess this, you're my tragedy. I laid you to rest just as fast as you turned on me.
I think the idea that the wishes of the man in any pregnancy situation- planned or unplanned, are entitled to any consideration- particularly legal consideration, is very dangerous and should be rejected on principle in every case.