Do you believe Manson's antics in Portrait and Smells like Children crossed the line?

[blangsip]

Do you believe manson crossed the line during the stages?

There are truths of band member abuse

sex or mild abuse with mid teens perhaps underage (correct me if i'm wrong)

Their is an element of egoism in Laveyian Satanism that manson embraced more at that time that he might have used in a negative and decitful way with his fans and others.

asphyxiation photos (fake?)

and a few other things.

I personally don't judge or care what he did but i'm just wondering what you guys think

[Pestilence]

Nope.

[AssetReign]

[Dv5]

What in the actual fuck?

[ThreeEyedGod]

don't forget to add the time when he (allegedly?)fondled kiddie winkies.

[The Empirical Guy]

I believe his nostrils crossed the lines many times.

[ImNotJesus]

^ You get points for that one, I'll admit.

[Emma]

Unsubstantiated rumors should be given this much credibility:

[AssetReign]

Unsubstantiated rumors should be given this much credibility:

I agree, especially slanderous and disturbing allegations that appear to be about pedophilia.

[Emma]

I agree, especially slanderous and disturbing allegations that appear to be about pedophilia.

Absolutley agreed - the rib removal was funny, if slightly annoying, but to think this is a rumor that should be given credibility, is not good in my honest opinion