Do you believe manson crossed the line during the stages?
There are truths of band member abuse
sex or mild abuse with mid teens perhaps underage (correct me if i'm wrong)
Their is an element of egoism in Laveyian Satanism that manson embraced more at that time that he might have used in a negative and decitful way with his fans and others.
asphyxiation photos (fake?)
and a few other things.
I personally don't judge or care what he did but i'm just wondering what you guys think