Being a recent fan, I never realized he was doing anything involved with the black death. There were lots of stage costumes inspired by the black death during the Lest We Forget and High End of Low tours. But that's pretty cool.
I thought he had finished Phantasmagoria, as usually trailers are made with clips from the movie.
Skold might have written the music before the lyrics were written for a few of the songs. I sort of felt like Holy Wood was his Celebritarianism album.
I definitely hope to read Holy Wood one of these days. I always enjoyed Manson's excitement about his grander scale film projects that never quite made it through. One was "horripilation," the proposed new horror sub-genre created by Manson. The proclamation of this new sub-genre came in 2005, and was planned to begin materializing by 2006 as a series of Lewis Carrol-based horror short films that were to be released through the official Manson website - NME: MARILYN MANSON UNLEASHES 'HORRIPILATION'. Then, by 2006, the 'horripilation' short film series turned in to the upcoming full-length mindfuck Phantasmagoria, never to be fully realized. A couple of albums later, in 2010, there was the approach of another new horror sub-genre - Skinemax Cinema, which would be initiated by Splatter Sisters, the "sexploitation-serial killer-slasher-road movie-circa 1989" -Shockya - Marilyn Manson and Evan Rachel Wood Go Skinemax in Splatter Sisters. Manson already has created a new horror sub-genre, I think, whether horripilation or skinemax or both combined. It's just ambiguous. But, if ever Manson gets around to finally making a full-length movie, I will definitely be excited to see it.
I'm an artist. I start projects all of the time that moved aside or are adapted into something else or are abandoned entirely. I don't think it's weird or abnormal or unprofessional. My mind moves quickly and I jump from idea to the next at the mercy of inspiration. I suspect that Manson works in a similar way. It's hard to ignore new sources of inspiration and newer, better ideas to work one project to completion at a time. A lot of the time it's counter-creative and can lead to some shitty and uninspired art. Is it better to finish a project for the sake of finishing it or to allow your creativity to take you where it will and eventually come up with something, down the line, you are proud of? Likewise, I don't fault him wanting to share his excitement over the new potential projects he comes up with. And who knows, maybe it really isn't always his fault that they never see the light of day.
Consider this: 1) When dealing with all of the intricacies of producing/funding or planning a film there are a lot of things simply beyond the artists control that can sink a project. Funding/contracts/availability/copyrights/cancellations...
2) How do we know that we haven't seen a lot of this material already? Who is to say that aspects of the celebritarian concept or the factory or whatever haven't been absorbed into what we've already seen since then?
3) Maybe some this of this stuff just turned out to be shit and he dropped it to work on something better.
4) There are a lot of people complaining who have never done anything creative in their lives that like to pretend that they know what it's like.
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2.) A lot of it has! Celebritarian era slogans and imagery that appeared on merch have appeared on EMDM, THEOL and Born Villain.
4) If it was really about "creativity" then it would given away free. Don't kid yourself, it's about hype. Notice how he only announces these projects two years after his last album? It's all about keeping fans interested for whatever comes next.
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I would Love to read the uncensured Holy Wood novel, it would be quite a trip... So hope it is released one day, together with a filmic translation *yes, dream mode on*. I would absolutely Love to read the next chapter of Long Hard of Road Out of Hell, it was such a great time spent and alot of things have happened since... Manson mentioned Phantasmasgoria recently to say it was not buried, really hope not. The Factory exists, it was mentioned by John 5, just hope it sees the light one day. And yes, there was some lost music done before eat me drink me that was going in a different direction, as stated then, rpobably inspired by the Black Death. It's normal for a guy as creative as Manson to have always tons of unfinished or unrealeased projects, due to a lot of reasons and i only want to see things the way he wants to put them out, not compromised by censure in any form. I remember hearing something about this insane huge Pogo key production made during the HW sessions, would love to hear it one day. And who knows whats left to be known one day, I would never imagine there was a video (and a great one) for Apple Of Sodom and it existed....