It goes too far.
Nah, people are just too sensitive.
Eh, I don't know. I just like the song.
This song is terrible and I just find it stupid.
This is a really horrible song. Not for the subject matter but how awful the lyrics and music is.
I'm A Class Act
Why thank you. :)
Agreed. -And yeah you might need a new circle of people, to call friends, though you can't expect everyone to like or agree with what you like (including everything). But yeah, I keep to myself on things that most people would start a blaze on... Unless I genuinely feel like debating, which is why this forum is refreshing. There is a shortage of people who are open minded, and intelligent.
I don't understand the thoughts behind this thread? Pistol Whipped isn't that controversial compared with the whole rest of Manson's career. If you're offended I think you should go listen to something like Justin Bieber
I don't find it offensive at all. Even if he was to literally write a song about beating up women, I still wouldn't care. Not that I would ever advocate such acts, but it's only a song after all and I'm not going to act offended on behalf of someone else. I think that the general public has been conditioned to be overly sensitive and take offense to things that are incredibly minor like songs, films and so on, even if they don't know why (or if) they should even be offended in the first place or even if they themselves aren't actually offended.
Last edited by SangreV; 09-15-2012 at 03:56 PM.
When Marilyn Manson was in his early twenties he staged and took nude polaroids of his girlfriend to give the impression she'd been brutally murdered, then left them in public places during a period of moral panic following both current affairs like the Night Stalker slayings, and media such as Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer. Later he would take promotional photographs for his band showing him asphyxiating a woman to the point of either unconsciousness, or death.
In his thirties he would respond to false accusations of influencing the Columbine High School massacre by posing in a series of pictures brandishing firearms.
During his mid-thirties, he took photographs of his then-fiance with stab-wounds to the torso, alongside numerous others showing him brandishing a knife.
In his late thirties, he wrote an album with several inter-personal domestic violence themes present, with a later music video showing him beating a young woman into bloody submission.
With all of this taken into account, a fictitious song with non-gender-specific descriptions of dominant behaviour between adults written in his forties seems somewhat tame in comparison. Essentially, if you're offended by Pistol Whipped, then the past twenty-or-more years of Manson's career should be immeasurably more offensive.
I loathe domestic violence, and in my gentlemanly, somewhat old-fashioned opinion, don't think that there should ever be a reason for a man to abuse a woman, with self-defensive violence being a rare and of-the-moment occurrence I've never personally encountered. Even with that loathing, I don't think Marilyn Manson is seriously suggesting this as acceptable behaviour, neither do I think he promotes or takes part in it. We know what with the love/hate relationship they displayed, and his own 'Evidence' of bite-marks and suchlike his romance with Evan Rachel Wood was tempestuous, but even with that taken into account, he just doesn't ever seem like the sort of person who behaves or reacts that way.
In the same sense as Nick Cave characterising Henry Lee and writing misogynist murder ballads, it's an act, a character, and like any of his other guises, Manson's simply trying out a mask to best represent his thoughts.
"Fools are my theme, let satire be my song."
I find the song offensive, because is just too damn awful, uninspired and weak. One of the worst songs in his catalogue, undoubtely.
I don't find it offensive AT ALL! I feel like people don't even understand the lyrics.
"You're a little pistol, and I'm fucking pistol whipped" It means the girl had the gun and pistol whipped him.
Lol, how is that talking bad about females? It is just saying she beat him up...