The High End Of Low & Born Villain

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WOW….one of the few mm songs i cannot stand to listen to.
the high end of low is hit or miss for me. great album though.
born villain…still growing on me. songs like "hey cruel world" are truly inspiring, while "breaking the same old ground" brings so many things to mind…mostly an overwhelming sense of loss. a beautifully haunting end to the album.
15 is one of my all time favorites. hands down.
i want to kill you like they do in the movies…i just hope the curtain drops to this being an opener to a show. although i doubt that would ever happen.
i see born villain as two concepts independently that congeals into one.
enough rambling though, i forgot what i was trying to say

[Black Dahlia]

Both albums are emotional, deep, critical, thought-provoking, sexual, and are symbolic of who he is.

[Norsefire]

WOW….one of the few mm songs i cannot stand to listen to.

I see comments on this song where people either love it or hate it.
I remember the first time I heard it and I just loved it straight away when the music began, before Manson started singing, for me it just got even better as the song played on.
I think it is quite different to the rest of the stuff on THEOL, but it's one of my favourite tracks off that album.

[Atom]

I remember when the unfinished tracks were leaking for THEOL and the first time I listened to "WOW". I couldn't understand what the fuck Manson was thinking. I still don't. Actually I don't even think he was thinking at all.

It sounds like some crackheads got a hold of a macbook and a midi keyboard. How people compare it to sounding like anything off of Mechanical Animals is beyond me.

I like THEOL. I really liked it when it first came out and then got sick of it and couldn't stand it. After some time away from it I find it enjoyable again but there are so many tracks that I tend to skip. I still think "Wight Spider" is the shit and "Into the Fire" is horrible.

I could've sworn I'd read an interview where Manson praises Twiggy's guitar playing and talks about how great the solo is on "Into the Fire". I don't understand why. It sounds really amateur and consists of him bending the same notes over and over for like two minutes. It sounds like a bad attempt at trying to sound like Oasis or something.

[Manson15Marilyn]

Devour > Hey, Cruel World...

WOW > Pistol Whipped

Into the Fire > Slo Mo Tion

Blank and White > No Reflection

Unkillable Monster > Murderers Are Getting Prettier Every Day

But

The Gardener > Four Rusted Horses

Disengaged > I Have to Look Up Just to See Hell

Children of Cain > Wight Spider

Born Villain > 15

The Flowers of Evil > Pretty as a Swastika
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Yup, sounds about right to me

[blue angel]

I think both of these albums are Manson going more metal and going beyond a theme. Before Marilyn Manson was most known for being such a themed out band. These two are slowly getting him loose from that same old box.

[Atom]

I think both of these albums are Manson going more metal and going beyond a theme. Before Marilyn Manson was most known for being such a themed out band. These two are slowly getting him loose from that same old box.

How is THEOL (or even BV) an example of a band going "more metal"?

[Kollaps]

"Same old box" meaning when he was actually on top of the world and releasing A class music?

[blue angel]

How is THEOL (or even BV) an example of a band going "more metal"?

I just mean that they are both more adult , he seems to be slowly giving up being the scary Marilyn Manson and just letting it be more straight forward metal music. I think it's about time too. He can seem too poppy and silly at times.