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Thread: Star Wars: The One Thread [MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS]

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    I posted my two cents elsewhere and will repost it here.

    I never watched any trailers minus the initial teaser and pretty much avoided any discussion or talking points in this thread and elsewhere. I knew of some spoilers I sought out but they weren't definitively detailed. I must say I really enjoyed the film.

    The film differed from previous installments tying to the original trilogy and I applaud the direction they took. The Force Awakens was a good movie but very safe, familiar and recycled a lot of A New Hope's plot points. Rogue One was phenomenal but also had to tone down its narrative to fit into the pre-determined arc of the Death Star's completion to bridge from Revenge Of The Sith to A New Hope. This was the first film I felt like they could and would do what they wanted with source material and make it true and unique to its own. Nothing going forward ties to things of the past so it gives a lot of free reign of creativity and the plot decisions.

    Overall the film had solid direction and meandering ideas and some hit and some missed, which I'll be going on about next. Before I do, I dreaded the humor hate and talk that people expressed everywhere where it sounded so forced and shoehorned in for a laugh but I was surprised after watching this to find it was largely over exaggerated. Some wasn't necessary but it didn't detract from the film to me. If i had to complain, I'd say the Porgs being in scenes weren't always needed.

    The Good

     
    Kylo Ren Development and Struggles, I appreciated his indecisiveness to fire on the ship his mother was on yet had no visual remorse killing his father in the previous film. He is a conflicted character and they do a good job building on it, i just hope they make him commit to it. Which brings me to my next point on the death of Supreme Leader Snoke. I was both surprised and ultimately not TOO upset by the death of the shadow puppeteer in this film. I loved witnessing his immense power and influence in this film however that was cut short and I should be upset but I wasn't. His death by Kylo Ren betrayal was something I enjoyed because his death is a starting point for Kylo Ren's further trek to the Dark Side. It just sucks his character was defeated in a short stint of screen time. His Praetorian Guards were so awesome as well. Much better than the Crimson Guards for Emperor Palpatine. If there's anything they get right in these films is just how so badass and well designed the Villains are in these new films of the next Trilogy. I always gravitated to the darker characters in storylines and I appreciate how well crafted some of the First Order are. I am also displeased about another but will get into that with the bad.

    Luke Skywalker's nihilism and overall crippling sense of defeat to me was very well done. He seemed to hold no regard for anything, even to the point where it absorbed his personality from previous films and even made him abandon his family and friends. Some say it felt uncharacteristic but his plotline of losing Ben was something that was a defining factor for his elderly appearance in the film. Which brings me to Rey. I found her relationship to him and his reluctance to fully accept her to train is something I had hoped would be addressed and it was. I felt there was enough talk and explanation for her motives and his to drive a training story line forward. I wasn't a big fan of Rey in the first film but I enjoyed her character in this one. It felt more spaced out and tangible. I also must commend the writers for me actually liking Finn and Poe Dameron this time around, considering I disliked them heavily in TFA and felt they added nothing.

    The plot was good, although a bit simplistic. It stayed in a small portion of the galaxy and I liked that. It didn't have much exploration and its fine there wasn't. The thing felt rushed according to people and paper thin but I feel it added to the impact of this just being a random occurrence and it devolved into a life or death battle for the entire Resistance in the matter of a few minutes.


    The Bad

     
    Captain Phasma, I fucking HATE what they did with this character. I hated it in TFA and I did here too. I guess I will have to go read the book to get some exposition and scenes for this villain. I find the lack of actual use for her in this film other than a 2 minute Finn plotpoint atrocious. Now she's dead (inferred?) its even more infuriating.

    The entire Hacker/Casino subplot felt a bit ambitious and great after the initial reveal but didn't really add up to much and ultimately was a waste as the goal wasn't even achieved and the Rebels still had to evacuate via escape ships. It drives the plot forward but if the goal wasn't achieved they could've surely used Finn elsewhere in the film that would've amounted to something more time worthy. It was a fun detour from the main conflict but could've been presented better. I didn't hate it but it had issues, nor did I hate the Rose character I hear people bellyaching about.

    I am satisfied with what we learned and were told but some questions from TFA could've been addressed better or answered more concisely. I won't get into it but everyone should know what I mean. I'm not upset by the handling of these but in hindsight they should've never been presented in TFA if they weren't going to be addressed or handled more. I could go on and on but won't.


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    I love the new Star Wars movie!!! Although I would have preferred to see Kylo turning away from the Dark Side but I think we'll not see the day, he's gonna stay a bad motherfucker lol...and yes, I was close to tears when I saw Carrie Fisher, especially when 'Princess Leia's Theme' was played and she was floating through space .... (






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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertigo View Post
    I love the new Star Wars movie!!! Although I would have preferred to see Kylo turning away from the Dark Side but I think we'll not see the day, he's gonna stay a bad motherfucker lol...and yes, (
    I don't. I don't want the stereotypical redemption story from this trilogy. I want him to stay true on his Dark Side path. His character is infinitely interesting flirting with both sides but after killing Snoke and become the Supreme Leader he needs to stay on course.
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    Stereotypical redemption? He killed his father! Haven't seen any movie where a killer turns to a good man.

    And I found this the other day, love it:


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    ^^^ FUCKING HAWWWWT.

    Also, you need to watch more movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertigo View Post
    Stereotypical redemption? He killed his father! Haven't seen any movie where a killer turns to a good man.
    Yes stereotypical. A lot of movies, tv shows, etc hardly commit to it since everyone loves "happy endings" and redemption stories.

    Most Star Wars media (books, games, etc) has characters constantly redeem themselves to the light. I won't give specific examples unless you want me to. There's numerous.
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    It was alright. Decent film, and I like old Luke much more than young Luke. That said, I may be one of the few people who liked Rogue One way more than The Force Awakens or The Last Jedi. All three recent SW films range from good to great and anyone with a scintilla of interest in the franchise should go see The Last Jedi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord MeowMeow View Post
    It was alright. Decent film, and I like old Luke much more than young Luke. That said, I may be one of the few people who liked Rogue One way more than The Force Awakens or The Last Jedi. All three recent SW films range from good to great and anyone with a scintilla of interest in the franchise should go see The Last Jedi.
    The Last Jedi > Rogue One > The Force Awakens
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