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Thread: 'EAT ME, DRINK ME': MARILYN MANSON'S GREAT, UNDERRATED GOTH ALBUM REVISITED

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimpaler View Post
    Tell me how Holy Wood gave John big shoes?
    He has huge feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansoniser View Post
    He has huge feet.
    And eats cum, ~*the more you know*~

    I was and am a diehard fan of John 5, I own most of his solo records. My sole criticism of him (if I'm even to call it that) as a band member is the same as most everyone else's: while he is without a doubt one of the most talented guitarists working today from a purely technical point of view, he is not the best of songwriters, and his perfectionist technicality more or less hinders him from having a sense of 'oomph.' Its largely why I love HW, because Twiggy, Sardy, and Pogo were in the mix and his talents were optimalized, and part of why I massively dislike GAOG, where he was somewhat left on his own. John is an incredible tool and I don't mean that in a derogatory sense.

    Anyways! John couldn't have made EMDM to save his life. In a sense, Tim is way more versatile of a guitarist and he executed that record near-perfectly. I'm not too much of a presence here, but I have made my case many times that EMDM suffered from one single thing which was Interscope trying to cash in on the emo trend via Manson. It was 2007, the age of Jeffree Star and MySpace, and they thought they could market the record to that crowd. I hated it, the makeup of the audience during that tour made me want to hop off a bridge, and it was generally a shitshow of soulless marketing. Whenever I want to cringe, I simply watch 'The MM special' ad. Fans didn't like being lumped in with that, so they went visceral and hated the record for years. I am glad that both fans and seemingly some music critics can now judge it on its own merits.

    By the way, for those who don't vaguely follow Skold on social media or dont see what he posts, especially lately, it's quite clear he's more than open and willing to play with Manson again. At this point in time, I think that'd be wicked as all hell.

    I am drunk.

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    Gave this album a full listening last night at work. It’s still a good record for me. The only song that falls flat to me is Mutilation Is the Most Sincere Form of Flattery. I just think that song is dull.

    A personal favorite would be You and Me and the Devil Makes 3. The instrumental is so badass and it’s such a good song altogether. The title track is, of course, amazing and remains to be one of my favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cataract777 View Post
    Gave this album a full listening last night at work. It’s still a good record for me. The only song that falls flat to me is Mutilation Is the Most Sincere Form of Flattery. I just think that song is dull.

    A personal favorite would be You and Me and the Devil Makes 3. The instrumental is so badass and it’s such a good song altogether. The title track is, of course, amazing and remains to be one of my favorites.
    Agreed. Mutilation is the only track I tend to skip. Not bad, just doesn't fit with the rest of the album, and does fall flat. EMDM is a great track. The instrumentals are so hypnotic.

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    I remember drinking and driving to this album. I'm lucky that I'm still alive to remember this record and also that I'm not in prison for vehicular homicide to still be able to listen to it.
    OMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM


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    Quote Originally Posted by theimpaler View Post
    Tell me how Holy Wood gave John big shoes?
    If thatís a question you have to ask, how much of a knowledgeable Manson fan are you?



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    Quote Originally Posted by DecayingSinner View Post
    If that’s a question you have to ask, how much of a knowledgeable Manson fan are you?
    lmao, wow. what a response. You sure did show me!

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    Holy Wood was the first album to feature John 5 as a song writer with the band. His playing and approach to guitars and sonics is part of what gives that album it's sound. He was also responsible for a lot of the b-sides from that era which are some of Manson's best. Up until that point, John 5 was still a touring member of the band. This was him being given the position of song writer, sometimes the primary one along side Manson. Definitely big shoes to fill.

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