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    Quote Originally Posted by The Empirical Guy View Post
    Call me a teenager then because KILL4ME is one of my favourite post-Triptych songs. Manson's always had a certain element of childishness to his lyrics, that's part of his style. But I always felt like HUD was a really strong album, there's not anything on there I consider a weak track. Opinions and tastes, I guess. But when you say it's by the numbers and his heart wasn't in it, that's kind of how I felt listening to WAC for the first time.



    I'm interested by what you're finding there because I found the production incredibly sparse for a Manson record, what exactly are you picking up on?
    That's perfectly fine lol. It's just my opinion.

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    I love this album, from top to bottom. I was taken aback, but slowly started to enjoy the title track when it was released. It just wasn’t what I was expecting. I expected a heavy aggressive track. The title of the song made me have that expectation. Not that that’s what I wanted, it’s just what I was expecting. I still am not a fan of the music video though lol. But I can understand with everything going on, a better music video wasn’t feasible.

    I’ll admit it. I downloaded the leak. Red, Black, and Blue didn't stand out to me the way I wanted it to initially. But now I love it. The spoken word intro I wasn’t feeling in the beginning but now have grown to love. The punch of the drums, how smooth and confident he sounds in the verses. It’s a fantastic track.

    Don’t Chase the Dead was not the sound I was expecting Manson to take at all. In fact, every single track on this record had me surprised when I heard them for the first time.
    With Don’t Chase the Dead, I loved the song, but the damage in his vocals is very apparent in this track. I’m so glad I as able to get past that because this is one hell of a track and a fantastic choice for a second single. Should have probably been the first single though.

    Paint You With My Love was another one that had me shook the first time I heard it. The chorus won me over at first listen. The verses are phenomenal as well. Some people think this song is cheesy, I see it as being tongue-in-cheek actually. The only thing that I’m not crazy about with this track would have to be the outro. I don’t dig it as much as the rest of the track.

    Half-Way and One Step Forward is an interesting one. It’s one that definitely surprised me off the bat with the piano. It’s the track that I listen to the least. I don’t hate it. I find myself listening to it more as time goes on. It’s a good one.

    Infinite Darkness was a track that took a few listens for me to get into. But now it’s one of my favorites. The first 25 seconds is badass. Anyone else get a Starfuckers, Inc. vibe from this segment of the song?

    Perfume is incredible. THIS should have been the first single. So good. The guitar riff in the chorus is infectious.

    Keep My Head Together is one that took time to grow on me. Now it’s one of my favorites. The chorus is so good.

    Solve Coagula. The first time I heard this track I instantly recognized the familiarity of the guitar in the beginning at the 15-second mark. What song is that from? I know it’s from a classic song too, I just can’t put my finger on it. A lot of the people over at ETS are trying to figure it out too. The only downfall of this particular track is the semi-cheesy lyrics. But I can get past them, because the chorus is definitely worth hearing. I love the way he says Solve Coagula right before the track starts.

    Broken Needle. My God. Definitely one of the best closer songs for an album Manson has ever had. This one is up there with Coma White for me. This song brings me to tears. That chorus. So fucking good. The part that really hits me hard and gives me chills is the “I’ll never ever play you again...“ segment at the end.

    Overall, this album is incredible. I enjoy each track in their own way. I love this Manson. And I’m so glad a lot of other people are enjoying this as well, especially people who were not a fan of his recent efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Empirical Guy View Post
    That said, I'm kind of confused by the poor opinion many seem to have of HUD
    HUD was definitely a step in the right direction after the pale emperor (Except killing strangers, Cupid, odds of even ). I’ve noticed since EMDM fans seem to love an album when it comes out and then hate it when the next one comes out...especially HEOL and BV. There was a lot of fans loving both albums and it seems like they get trashed all the time.

    WAC was awful upon first listen. I was not thinking it would be so soft and such a change up, but a day or two ago it finally clicked. I can’t stop listening and find it all enjoyable. Great production.

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    paint you with my love
    red black and blue

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    Quote Originally Posted by DecayingSinner View Post
    HUD was definitely a step in the right direction after the pale emperor (Except killing strangers, Cupid, odds of even ). I’ve noticed since EMDM fans seem to love an album when it comes out and then hate it when the next one comes out...especially HEOL and BV. There was a lot of fans loving both albums and it seems like they get trashed all the time.

    WAC was awful upon first listen. I was not thinking it would be so soft and such a change up, but a day or two ago it finally clicked. I can’t stop listening and find it all enjoyable. Great production.

    top tracks:
    broken needle
    paint you with my love
    red black and blue
    Sometimes you need some time for an album to click. Even if you enjoy it at face value, it can sometimes take the moment in your own life to really dig in to it deep. I've had that before. I certainly enjoy it and have been listening to it a lot. It has a pop sensibility that makes it very catchy. I just don't think it's as standout amazing as some of his other work.

    You're spot on about certain people ditching things for the 'new shiny' though. I've been around too long to not see how albums that people hate on release suddenly become classics later on, and vice versa. I guess it's surprised me because I remember HUD being pretty well received on release and then suddenly it seems to be thought of as a poorer effort.
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    Born Villain got that treatment bad.
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    What's odd about this album is that I've listened to it everyday since it came out and I don't love it or hate it. No songs stand out as exceptional, or horrible, it's just kind of there.
    HUD wasn't as consistent I guess but IMO, it had songs that got stuck in my head, though it kind of falls apart after Saturnalia.


    Here are my random thoughts on listening:
    I like how the songs are blended one to the next (no gap) it makes it seem like a cohesive piece
    His vocals sound the best they have in a decade - not slurry for once
    The drum beat that starts Keep My Head Together is bad ass
    Paint You With My Love - is the end supposed to be a nod to Speed of Pain? it's the same tempo and chord progression.
    Pefume - When I first heard Get Behind Me Satan from Ella Fitzgerald, I always was surprised Manson hadn't covered that song or used that line in some capacity
    I didn't really love WAC but it sits well in the album
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Overman View Post
    Born Villain got that treatment bad.
    This is just my observation but I think that has more to do with the fact people wanted "faster, harder and heavier" songs after THEOL and EMDM. Not my words but just my observations as a new fan at the time (2010/11). So that album came out and yelling man yelled more so they were happy at first. Like when the "I am among no one" teaser came out I mostly remember the consensus being "finally Manson is returning to his roots" or something like that. I can't pretend I wasn't similar in that respect but I think that was more due to it being my first new Manson album.

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    There's a popping sound in Paint You With My Love around 4:18 and it's driving me nuts

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    I absolutely love WAC! I haven't played a new Manson album on loop like this since BV. Don't Chase the Dead, Keep Your Head Together, Paint You With My Love, Broken Needle are all my favourites, but I like all the other songs too. It's telling that I actually know and remember the song names already. The vocals are crisp and clean sounding, as is the production and I appreciate that too.

    Another thing I love is that Don't Chase the Dead is going to be a single. It's refreshing to have one of my favourite songs on the album be a single, that hasn't happened in a long time. If there's a 3rd single, I hope it's Keep Your Head Together!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cataract777 View Post

    Solve Coagula. The first time I heard this track I instantly recognized the familiarity of the guitar in the beginning at the 15-second mark. What song is that from? I know it’s from a classic song too, I just can’t put my finger on it. A lot of the people over at ETS are trying to figure it out too. The only downfall of this particular track is the semi-cheesy lyrics. But I can get past them, because the chorus is definitely worth hearing. I love the way he says Solve Coagula right before the track starts.
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    I can't figure it out either, but it may just be that it is a kind of common-sounding progression. Not sure.

    PS- What is ETS? A Manson forum I don't know about?

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