Pogo/Stephen Bier Interviewed by MUEN
Posted by Norsefire on Mar 23 2010 Tweet
Ex Marilyn Manson Keyboardist Stephen Bier a.k.a Pogo/Madonna Wayne Gacy has recently been interviewed by MUEN. Pogo comments on some of his time spent in Marilyn Manson and what he is currently doing.
MUEN: YOU ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN NUMEROLOGY. Yeah, I did a lot of the numerology and cabalistic stuff on Antichrist Superstar. I have always had an interest in alchemy and all those esoteric things. I brought that into the band and I kind of had some fun with it. Itís always kind of fun and itís not to be deprecating toward it because we were doing it in a serious way. We were trying to represent on Antichrist that there is an apocalypse, but itís not at one time. Everyone has there own apocalypse when they die so there is always an apocalypse going on for someone. An apocalypse is an internal thing to you, just like your birth and death. The world existed before you were born and it doesnít exist after youíre gone, so technically itís the beginning and end of the world. I also liked the cool, crazy writing on the Ozzy album, so I have to admit it is fun to just use the Hebrew alphabet anyways.
MUEN: HOW LONG HAD YOU BEEN WITH MANSON? Iíve been with Manson since 1989. Iíve been with one band. I was there before there was actually any band. He took me out to shows after I graduated from college in 1988. We went to see this band that he really liked. I would sit around and watch these shows and go ďThese guys suck, we can do better than this.Ē In Gainesville, Florida, being a college town, there are a lot of really good live bands. College towns always have a lot of great live bands, but they break up as soon as everybody graduates. The thing is, in South Florida there was this rock community that was so dated and piss-poor lame. They were living out bad hair rock fantasies from the 80ís and shit still. Manson and I were like ďWe can do better than this.Ē We started out that way just trying to be a live band and put on good shows. We were always known as a live ensemble entertainer more than a musician. I always made the analogy that to call us musicians is like calling a stripper a ballerina. Iím not saying they are not both dancers and Iím not saying that they are not both fun to watch. Iím just saying one is more of an entertainer and one is much more of a professional dancer. So, being in Marilyn Manson, we are strippers. We are not ballerinas, itís not Rush.
MUEN: WHEN DID YOU LEAVE THE BAND? Technically, it was in 2007.
MUEN: DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY YOU LEFT? You see, with the court thing, Iím not sure what we can talk about because there is still a debate whether I left or I was fired because technically I was a partner. He tried to say I was an employee and he tried to fire me. You canít do that with a partner, so thatís what these three years of lawsuits that have been going on about.
MUEN: WELL THERE ARE STORIES OUT THERE AND I THINK PEOPLE HAVE FORMED THEIR OWN OPINIONS. They have the right to do that. Iím not going to change because of this and Iím not going to disparage Manson. I wish him the best, but I think he got too far away from the music to be honest. He wanted to do more acting, painting and all that other stuff. I think he kind of forgot, like Lunchbox, I want to be a rock star. You canít serve two masters. Every musician wants to be an actor anyways and every actor wants to be a musician. Itís the classic Hollywood double-take. Yeah, itís just one of those things. I canít get inside his brain, but I think he got a little too surrounded by yes-men and people who were trying to present him in a Hollywood way and trying to get him away from the music. In a weird way, because we came from Florida, we were outside this whole entertainment scene where everybody just like sucks your ass.
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